Team Wilder only have themselves to blame!

[Ray*]

If they make Wilder vs Hughie Fury I will laugh my ass off. Wilder needs to start talking some smack to Hughie, it would make a rematch so much better after he splatters Tyson's cousin.

Maybe Fury can fight Wilder's younger brother (Cruiserweight) on the same card. The winner then square off.

[Scopedog]

I’m not even sure this is a duck, just an utterly braindead move from Fury and Arum, thinking they could pull this kind of stunt with no consequence. It’s all just a backfired attempt at a power play by Arum, who’s promised Fury 80 mil despite the fact that it’s going to be a nightmare to get him any decent fights with the landscape being what it is. Fury is too thick to think about all this and only saw the dollar signs. It’s not really cowardice imo, just ******ity.

[kafkod]

Not at all. Why should the winner give the loser a rematch and still expect the loser to call the shots?

Wilder had a rematch clause in his contract. If Haymon hadn't robbed Fury, the rematch would be happening and Tyson wouldn't have a choice in the matter.

Karma.

That's true.

And if Arum - or some other third party - had stepped in and offered Wilder a $100million deal instead of Fury, the same people who are calling Fury a coward now would be celebrating like they were going to get a share of the money themselves.

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The balls to say Fury wasn’t hurt. He laid lifeless on the canvas for 6 seconds in the 12th those 2 punches hurt Fury Physically and Mentally.

If that’s not mentally defeated, shook and appear like his confidence and mojo got snatched away from those 2 punches. then what is.

Did you watch the fckn fight?

Fury got up from those 2 punches and stood right in front of Wilder with his hands behind his back, laughing and slipping shots, then went on the attack and was chasing Wilder round the ring when the final bell went.

Wilder was the one who looked like his confidence had been crushed and his mojo snatched. Did you see the shocked look on his face when he saw Tyson getting up and stopped his premature victory dance?

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This thread is such a apologetic pile of sh.it. You can’t paint or spin Fury and turn these moves into a positive no matter how hard you try . Far to many people on here are giving Fury a pass

Let’s set the record straight Fury wasn’t Robbed. Tyson was up on the cards by the judge who scored it a draw going into the 12th. Even if he just lost the round he would have still won the fight all he had to do to win was not get KD and that’s what happend. Fury is the one who let it slip away and lucky the fight wasn’t called off.


A fair complaint is the judge who scored it for Wilder gave him the first 4 rounds which seems like some BS and the Other 2 both only gave Wilder the first round.
Besides that the judges cards are very similar and in the 7th the judge who scored it for Wikder gave to Fury while the other 2 gave it to Wilder . So if he gave that round to Wikder like the other 2 judges and hypothetically take away 1’of his rounds he gave Wilder in the first 4 , it still would have ended in a MD.

And - hypothetically - if all those judges had scored the fight fairly then Fury would have won and the rematch would be happening next on the terms they both agreed to in the contracts for the first fight.

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The balls to say Fury wasn’t hurt. He laid lifeless on the canvas for 6 seconds in the 12th those 2 punches hurt Fury Physically and Mentally.

I’m sure he was concussed and felt the effects of never having been hit like that , but Fury gave up a chance if he beat Wikder to go on and fight AJ for all the marbles, the biggest Hw fight in decades with the winner being looked at as the best of his era.

He got shook so bad he gave away a opportunity to be in the history books to fight and probably fight 2nd tier HWs for a couple years. He’d rather be looked at running away from Wilder andblose out on a chance at history just so the chance of him getting KTFO by Wilder didn’t happen. If that’s not mentally defeated, shook and appear like his confidence and mojo got snatched away from those 2 punches. then what is.

When was the last time the perceived winner openly ran away from a rematch

Thanks for letting me know how boxing is scored and like I pointed out. With the KDs and all the judges giving Wilder the 1st and 2 giving him the second. 2 judges only needed to give him 1 of the remaining 8 rounds for it to be a draw. A fight that almost have thought was the right decision isn’t a robbery

Absolute rubbish.

Fury did exactly the same thing against Cunningham. Got dropped, took a few seconds to get himself straight, then got up on completely steady legs and proceeded to put on a beating.

If Fury was badly hurt or concussed, he wouldn't have got up, and wouldn't have put a beating on his opponent until the end of the round.

I know it's the only thing you Wilder fans can cling on to after your boy got schooled, but get over it, Fury was fine!

[Squ□redCircle34]

Fury is getting way too much pass for this and for surviving Wilder, I mean credit he deserves cuz he did the unthinkable by getting up from Wilder’s 2 piece in the 12th but sometimes you don’t get to control the narrative cuz you survive!

Fury saw the writing on the wall that Wilder was starting to time cuz Fury would do the same roll and duck move over an over and Wilder learned where his head would be when Fury throws a jab!

Fury knows he won’t be getting up next time so he looked to secure his future even if it means him going back on his word on rematching Wilder!

So much for being the Gypsy fighting man and not caring about money! This goes down as a duck, no matter how you slice it!

[champion4ever]

If Haymon's judges hadn't robbed Fury of a clear W, then he would no doubt be getting his rematch next.

Fury isn't ducking Wilder, he just wants things on a level playing field. 50/50 is no good if the judges will rob you.

As a boxing fan, i'm disappointed the rematch isn't happening straight away. I think the money men in America want to keep Joshua-Wilder-Fury apart for a while to generate more interest/money in the future. It sucks, but it is what it is.

What you are tending to forget is that those same judges were the very ones that Tyson Fury had chosen himself. He requested neutral judging from different countries. Which is why he chose the California venue.

That's right, Tyson chose the venue as well. Neither team wanted that fight staged in California but Tyson Fury did. Both teams wanted the event staged in a Las Vegas venue where they could have earned the most amount of money.

However, Wilder wanted it staged in New York. He later relented and chose California, instead in order to save the fight from falling apart.

So in reality, this was all Tyson Fury's undoing. Hadn't he chosen California as the venue, then undoubtedly, he could have been easily the new WBC heavyweight champion.

Therefore, he only has himself to blame. I know the truth hurts but it helps.

Hopefully, he learns his lesson the next time he challenges for another major World title and that is to lay it all on the line while leaving nothing to chance by leaving everything behind in the ring. Don't hold nothing back by doing just enough not to lose like he did against Deontay Wilder.

Go out and take the champion's title away from him like a true soldier and if you lose so what. At least you lose with both your honor and dignity intact; In knowing that you went out there and gave it your all and your best without second guessing yourself, due to fear for not taking enough chances or risks inside the ring.

Remember it's always better to lose on your own terms rather than on someone else's terms. Moreover, in order to display the championship heart and spirit of a real champion, sometimes it's best to take fate into your own hands, instead of putting it into the hands of others.

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What you are tending to forget is that those same judges were the very ones that Tyson Fury had chosen himself. He requested neutral judging from different countries. Which is why he chose the California venue.

That's right, Tyson chose the venue as well. Neither team wanted that fight staged in California but Tyson Fury did. Both teams wanted the event staged in a Las Vegas venue where they could have earned the most amount of money.

However, Wilder wanted it staged in New York. He later relented and chose California, instead in order to save the fight from falling apart.

So in reality, this was all Tyson Fury's undoing. Hadn't he chosen California as the venue, then undoubtedly, he could have been easily the new WBC heavyweight champion.

Therefore, he only has himself to blame. I know the truth hurts but it helps.

Hopefully, he learns his lesson the next time he challenges for another major World title and that is to lay it all on the line while leaving nothing to chance by leaving everything behind in the ring. Don't hold nothing back by doing just enough not to lose like he did against Deontay Wilder.

Go out and take the champion's title away from him like a true soldier and if you lose so what. At least you lose with both your honor and dignity intact; In knowing that you went out there and gave it your all and your best without second guessing yourself, due to fear for not taking enough chances or risks inside the ring.

Remember it's always better to lose on your own terms rather than on someone else's terms. Moreover, in order to display the championship heart and spirit of a real champion, sometimes it's best to take fate into your own hands, instead of putting it into the hands of others.

Sources for any of those claims?

And bollocks to all that "take the belt off the champion ****"

You win more rounds, you win the fight. End of.

Everyone knows Fury won that fight, find me one public poll that scored the fight to Wilder or a draw.

Here's a tip, you can't. ^^

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I’m not even sure this is a duck, just an utterly braindead move from Fury and Arum, thinking they could pull this kind of stunt with no consequence. It’s all just a backfired attempt at a power play by Arum, who’s promised Fury 80 mil despite the fact that it’s going to be a nightmare to get him any decent fights with the landscape being what it is. Fury is too thick to think about all this and only saw the dollar signs. It’s not really cowardice imo, just ******ity.

Fury signed with Arum/ESPN because he wanted a level playing field. Why should he fight on a Showtime card when he knows the judges/establishment will be against him? Signing to ESPN evens things up when it comes to negotiations.

You don't know anything about Fury's deal other than the information that's been released to the public, stop pretending otherwise.