Stephen Espinoza vs Eddie Hearn

[Scipio2009]

Question is why can't Finkel meet with Hearn? Is he a baby?

Why waste the meeting?

Joshua was content to fight in the UK for the rest of his run (whiffing or Wilder, Fury, and Whyte, being without a viable opponent for Wembley, is likely the only reason he's even making the trip over), Joshua was apparently working on his own shadow deal with DAZN (sound familiar), and Joshua's reaction made it pretty darn clear that he never expected the $50m to actually turn up.

Why give Hearn the theater when it's clear that he has no actual plan to negotiate in good faith? So he can go back to his British press and say "Hey, we tried. Now that that didn't work, here's the fight we were looking to make anyway"?

[Scipio2009]

That's a lie , he requested one simple question after the month had past when they refused any information to him And that was where it would take place.

No paper work was needed after the counter offer of 50 million because then it became a territory thing where AJ got fed up and understood 50 million would be somewhat miniscule to give up a Wembley stadium fight which estimated 35 million which isn't possible anyway .

Because we ALL know the BT stipulations were the reason why Finkel cancelled those meetings and through up the absurd 50 million .

Try again!

Lol, why lie about obvious stuff?

Eddie Hearn talked with Haymon, got answers to the questions that he had, and then sat with AJ; fight in the US for this $50m, or let's make an improved offer to Wilder to come on over to Wembley.

If it was absurd, Hearn would've run to social media ages ago and said so; the fact that AJ walked away from a legit $50m to fight is the basis for a good 70%-80% of the hate he's getting right now, lol.

[Scipio2009]

You're actually revising. Wilder said he doesn't wish to fight Joshua and so did Finkel who said Fury is on his agenda not AJ, his own words were we will not fight Joshua in 2018. Joshua moved on and set up a Wembley date that every priced themselves out, the real boogeyman is AJ.

Are you honestly trying to now argue that Wilder didn't agree to fight at Wembley in August for the low-ball $15m, just before the WBA "randomly" came forward with a 24-hour call on their mandatory, which just so happened to push the fight instead into 2019, with Hearn still trying to keep the same terms?

[juggernaut666]

Not true. Hearn sent a contract with no date and told Finkel he'd have a date for him by the end of the week. Then Hearn told Finkel he'd decided to fight Povetkin next and Joshua wouldn't fight Wilder until April 2019. That's when Wilder pulled out of the fight.

That's b.s Finkel e mailed it Saturday which would go into next week on U.K time, anyway Finkel ran on social media confirming he was not signing it after having the contract for over week which is before all this b.s I need a date began .

In other words he cried about a date when he openly admitted it was next and fought Fury on December 22 which is later then he would have fought Joshua.

The WBA extensions were done and Finke l had the contract all that time only to run to social media ,that's when WBA enforcement came in and it was done on purpose by Finkel to weasel out of a fight.

[juggernaut666]

Lol, why lie about obvious stuff?

Eddie Hearn talked with Haymon, got answers to the questions that he had, and then sat with AJ; fight in the US for this $50m, or let's make an improved offer to Wilder to come on over to Wembley.

If it was absurd, Hearn would've run to social media ages ago and said so; the fact that AJ walked away from a legit $50m to fight is the basis for a good 70%-80% of the hate he's getting right now, lol.

You rewriting history. BT sports were involved and that was the secret why Hearn was not giving any actual stipulations. Hearn was never giving detailed information about who would be doing the promotion otherwise he wouldn't have even wasted his time.

You really must be a special kind of ******? Now go tag more alts in , I got all night!

[Robbie Barrett]

[Scipio2009]

You rewriting history. BT sports were involved and that was the secret why Hearn was not giving any actual stipulations. Hearn was never giving detailed information about who would be doing the promotion otherwise he wouldn't have even wasted his time.

You really must be a special kind of ******? Now go tag more alts in , I got all night!

BT helped Haymon determine market value for the UK rights on the fight, lol.

DiBella wasn't going to show up in the UK and figure out how to sell the fight on Box Office; the rights would've been sold to Sky Sports at a price, and then Hearn/Joshua would've done what they could to make the rights as valuable in the UK as possible.

Anthony Joshua asked for $50m, and was shown that the $50m was there for him; agree to the money and then let's see if we can fill in the details.

Wilder was set to fight Joshua for $15m, agreed to the money, and yet didn't have word what the US TV was supposed to be, yet you're talking ****? lol.

[Robbie Barrett]

BT helped Haymon determine market value for the UK rights on the fight, lol.

DiBella wasn't going to show up in the UK and figure out how to sell the fight on Box Office; the rights would've been sold to Sky Sports at a price, and then Hearn/Joshua would've done what they could to make the rights as valuable in the UK as possible.

Anthony Joshua asked for $50m, and was shown that the $50m was there for him; agree to the money and then let's see if we can fill in the details.

Wilder was set to fight Joshua for $15m, agreed to the money, and yet didn't have word what the US TV was supposed to be, yet you're talking ****? lol.

[N/A]

In other words he cried about a date when he openly admitted it was next and fought Fury on December 22 which is later then he would have fought Joshua.

Hearn sent a contract without a date because he claimed he was still working on the date. Finkel was supposed to be vetting everything else in the meantime to speed up the process. When Finkel said, "we're ready to sign, what's the date?" Hearn said he'd tell him the date by the end of the week. The end of the week came and Hearn said they'd decided to do the Povetkin fight first and the Wilder fight could be April 2019.

So you can't say Wilder lost his pen because Wilder was never ever offered, in writing, a 2018 fight against Joshua. Only April 2019.

[REDEEMER]

Are you honestly trying to now argue that Wilder didn't agree to fight at Wembley in August for the low-ball $15m, just before the WBA "randomly" came forward with a 24-hour call on their mandatory, which just so happened to push the fight instead into 2019, with Hearn still trying to keep the same terms?

That was in June 2018 ,agreeing and signing are two different things. anyone can agree to fight ,if they don't sign it doesn't mean anything. You're not very good with timelines are you ? After that Finkel made it clear Fury was next and no Joshua fight would be made that year, those are his words .So how could Joshua make that fight ? Finkel on his own premise decided to do 2 fights with Fury which we all know had rematch clauses attached to it.


Wilder was giving 40% and rematch U.S clause for Wembley and he still ran away when the draw made that possible. Maybe you just don't realize its 2019 now and fights cannot be made if the other party doesn't want to fight ?