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  • Originally posted by Deus View Post
    You love crediting Wilder for absolutely everything whilst giving nobody else any credit for anything.

    Let's be real; the only thing 'forcing' Anthony Joshua out of his comfort zone is DAZN and the fact they've guaranteed him somewhere around $30,000,000 Dollars to fight Miller at MSG. Miller himself has admitted that DAZN had to put up part of his purse too which goes to show just how desperate DAZN were to get the fight.
    Then why is he fighting him here in the states? Why couldn't he just fight him in England at the 02 or some other British venue? He didn't have to travel to the United States in order to fight Miller on DAZN. It's because like Fury he is attempting broaden his brand off Deontay Wilder.

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    • Originally posted by 15 Rounds again View Post
      Exactly.

      The very definition of hype. There is absolutely no halting the positive hype press he gets. He just lost to Fury. A reasonable and balanced view will agree. He lost that fight, it wasn't really that close. He struggles with an aging Cuban who himself hasn't done much.he and his promoters (all of them) have shown that they won't even answer the phone, or look at strong and generous (and real, not PR stunt) offers.
      He simply is hyped and protected and it's the fans who not only dont get to see the fights we want but bend up with the WBC belt being hostaged when there are great fighters like Whyte, Miller and others who deserve a shot.
      He's a stain on boxing, along with Finkel.
      Didn't take long for the AJ fanboys to show up and defend there God.

      ... stopped reading your comment after first sentence.

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      • Originally posted by Iamsmoke89 View Post
        That’s some racist a$$ shyt u **** head
        How is that racist?? I didn't read anything racist in his comment.
        You and most of the people on this site need to stop being so sensitive!

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        • Originally posted by hitking View Post
          Reading these comments where folks are saying Fury toyed with Wilder. Fury outclassed Wilder. And/or Fury boxed Wilder’s ears off shows the low boxing IQ of a lot of the posters on this site. Making funny faces when you’re out of punching range isn’t toying with someone. Doing next to nothing offensively isn’t outclassing someone. And getting put on your ass twice isn’t boxing someone’s ears off.

          Fury fought a good fight. But a huge portion of it was fought in somewhat survival mode. Fury was never able to get to a place where he was able to get comfortable trying to score, and not fearing what was coming back in return. Fury basically tried to do just enough to win each round, which is fine. But in order to do that, you can’t afford to get dropped twice.

          I disagree with Holyfield that Wilder is the definitive #1 heavyweight in the world. There’s no way you could walk away from his fight with Fury and say he was clearly the better guy. And AJ’s resume definitely warrants some consideration as to being the top guy.

          I also disagree with Holyfield that the Wilder-Fury fight should have been stopped. I mean, Fury got up and fought well afterwards. I think the only argument that can be made is that Fury received extra time to recover. As opposed to the traditional ten count, he probably received close to thirty seconds to clear his head. But that’s just the way boxing is now. Wilder received extra time to recover after being badly hurt in the Ortiz fight. It’s just the way boxing is now. And anything they can do to improve fighter safety, I’m all for it.
          This poster understands boxing better than Holyfield

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          • Don't see how this is possible when Wilder already lost to Fury.

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            • Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni View Post
              It's at the referee's discretion. The referee clearly made the correct call. No matter how much you wish otherwise, the referee (ya know, the guy who was actually IN the ring and paid to be unbiased) decided Fury was collected enough to warrant a 10 count. Again, Fury met the count and won the rest of the round (you need to be removed from the gene pool if you scored it any worse than 10-9). So there's no need to question the professional discretion.
              Even Tyson's own father said he would have thrown in the towel had he been there if the ref didn't waive it off.

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              • Originally posted by Bad Bart View Post
                Jesus, this comment section is a disaster. Holyfield states his opinion and a bunch of online tough guys go apoplectic trying to discredit the man, as if they know boxing better than a former champion. It's not unreasonable to feel that way, it's the level disrespect merely because of disagreement that is completely out of place. Get a ****ing grip weirdos, you're making this site unbearable.
                Absolute truth man. It is shameful...

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                • Originally posted by Brooklyn926 View Post
                  My man you making yourself look and sound dumb AF and it’s nit a good look,they brought a doctor in after the 1 min break and have wilder something like an extra 20 seconds. If getting an extra 20 seconds after getting hurt “doesn’t compute” I’m not sure much does with you. To me it don’t make a difference but if wilder nut huggers are gonna cry about fury beating the count, you damn right I’m gonna bring up wilders paid pbc mid fight medical break
                  Your attempt to call out someone else for looking and sounding dumb is pretty rich with your spelling and sentence structure man. That "break" was a NY rule to check if Wilder was concussed and they can not interrupt in between rounds. He obviously was not concussed and was allowed to continue. Do you know who WAS concussed? Tyson Fury when he lost consciousness.

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                  • Windmillers.

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                    • Originally posted by Marchegiano View Post
                      That was excellent, take a bow son.

                      Lennox getting paid the funniest one. While quoting Eddie Hearn they wanted to tell us we can't trust Lennox because of financial ties.
                      it's obvious Lenox is scared of AJ surpassing his legacy. He tries to talk down on him any possible chance he has but no body gives a fvvk about his opinion. Maybe only wilder boys.

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