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  • #61
    Originally posted by JWHardin View Post
    Is it true there is no VADA testing for AJ vs Miller? I still think the mandatory random testing through VADA was what scared AJ off from fighting Wilder. Hearn was so desperate to get the fight signed at a certain time leads me to think they want to know when AJ can cycle off and not get busted.

    Like Victor Conte says, the drug tests are more of an IQ test than anything. The dumb ones get caught.
    Totally agree!

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Post
      Holyfield ranks wilder over aj= ohh, he's just defending his countryman. Lennox Lewis says aj is avoiding wilder = ohh, Lennox is just jealous of his fellow countryman.
      That was excellent, take a bow son.

      Lennox getting paid the funniest one. While quoting Eddie Hearn they wanted to tell us we can't trust Lennox because of financial ties.

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      • #63
        Yep, that 12th round should've been a KO, by any other referee. You don't get knocked out cold and lie motionless for half a count without the fight being waved off. Many fighters try to get up after being knocked out cold, but the refs stop them and tell them the fight is over. It's for the fighter's safety. Instead, Fury got a whole 10 count to snap out of it and additional time walking back and forth to get his senses back.

        I know what I saw. That was a KO.

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        • #64
          Looking at this objectively, AJ is the best heavyweight on the planet.Holder of 3 significant belts, better opposition and greater achievements in a short span of time. It is easy to judge.

          Subjective analysis is open to debate and each person has a way they look at things. We should take everything with a pinch salt that comes out from all the ex champions and AJ´s supporters as well. They might be getting paid by a moneyed interests and this can profoundly influence their opinions. (nothing bad about it). Contrastive approach makes AJ the best, basic observation.
          Last edited by Slimjoe; 02-24-2019, 08:02 AM.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by P4Pdunny View Post
            Have i said that? FOH

            How can Wilder be the best when he arguably lost his last fight and was gifted a draw against Fury? Has AJ and Wilder fought? Has the Wilder/Fury rematch happened? Has AJ and Fury got it on?

            So how can any of them be crowned the best without them all facing each other. If we're going on what they've done currently then a strong case can be made for AJ.
            Holyfield gave his argument for why he felt Wilder should have won the fight. That's no different from the many who argue that Fury should have won. As far as anyone's opinion as to who is the best, it's not as simple as a one fight evaluation. Is it fair to believe that Wilder wins 2 out of 3 fights? Sure if you value the late fight knockdowns as Wilder figuring Fury out.

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            • #66
              You can make an argument for Wilder being better than Joshua. However you cannot say Wilder is the best at heavyweight after he got schooled by Fury in his backyard and got gifted a draw by the judges only a few months ago.

              Fury > Wilder

              FACT!!

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              • #67
                The truth is we don't know who is really the best as fights between top 10 fighters are very rare nowadays. And even if they finally happen they are not judged properly since judges announce silly draws (eg. Wilder vs. Fury 1 or Canelo vs. GGG 1).
                Last edited by Dariusz; 02-24-2019, 08:22 AM. Reason: sp.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Dramacyde View Post
                  Gotta agree with the Real Deal. That fight definitely should've been stopped. Fury was given too much time to recover
                  What, 3 seconds to open his eyes?? Lol

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                  • #69
                    Opinions are like *******s
                    everybody's got one.

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                    • #70
                      Wilder was outclassed by Fury. So much so his fanboys are still insistent on Fury supposedly being KO'd but bailed out by an American ref. They know that green belt belongs to Fury. AJ has yet to be outclassed. It goes Fury, AJ and then Wilder. Plain and simple.

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