Comments Thread For: Holyfield: Wilder is The Best at Heavyweight, Not Joshua

[SN!PER]

Some poor lost souls have spoken blasphemy, but it's okay because in the end they will see the truth. They've built up Joshua so much that by the time Deontay baptizes him, they'll have no choice but to publicly apologize on this forum and acknowledge the greatness of the American champion.

Even Joshua himself will praise The Bronze Bomber. Joshua fans are future Wilder fans, but they don't realize it yet. We must guide them to the light. Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning for an undisputed champion. One Face, One Name, One King: Deontay the Bronze Bomber Wilder.

[champion4ever]

Some poor lost souls have spoken blasphemy, but it's okay because in the end they will see the truth. They've built up Joshua so much that by the time Deontay baptizes him, they'll have no choice but to publicly apologize on this forum and acknowledge the greatness of the American champion.

Even Joshua himself will praise The Bronze Bomber. Joshua fans are future Wilder fans, but they don't realize it yet. We must guide them to the light. Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning for an undisputed champion. One Face, One Name, One King: Deontay the Bronze Bomber Wilder.

Preach on!

[STREET CLEANER]

Lewis had much better competition than Rahman had at the time. Still didn't stop Rahman from the KO.

Yours is silly logic.

What happened to Rahman afterwards? What happened to Lewis career afterwards? Lewis didn't take him serious the first time. I guess past performances don't mean nothing to you. Watch some boxing then get back to me.

[REDEEMER]

lol Those two examples are completely different from what happened to Fury. Wilder was firing back versus Ortiz, so that's an inaccurate description. Fury was knocked out cold. He was out until 6, from the look of that picture. Any other referee would've waved that off, as that is standard boxing procedure. I've never seen a fighter be knocked out cold like that without the fight being called off.

How is that the same as Wilder getting knocked down hard and getting back up? I don't know where that quote is from, but I'd have to see a video of the knockdown, because it seems as if you're trying to say that Wilder was out cold, too? He doesn't say anywhere in that quote that he was out. He's just describing the feeling of having your senses taken away from you for a moment, which is what a knockdown is. That and being literally half-dead on the canvass are two very different things. Boxers get knocked down all the time, but fights continue. Fighters never get knocked out cold and receive a 10 count.

It's called being able to continue. You cannot continue if you are KOed. Sure, if you wait long enough any fighter, barring death, will snap out of it. But if this were actual combat, that would be it for Fury. It doesn't get more final than a guy literally being KOed. Moreover, allowing a guy who just got knocked out to continue shows no respect for the guy's health. Watch how Fury cranks his neck now. Listen to his voice. He's ducking for a reason. That referee didn't do him any favors by letting Wilder get a couple more huge left hooks on him before the round ended. Had Wilder not been so gassed after all the showboating, it could've even been worse.

You don't talk to refs if you are knocked out , so i'll stop here. You're another poster i'll stick in my looney bin section . So much so Wilders admitting to being TKO'd in the Sconiers fight and you try role reverse things with its not the same circumstance ? Yea its not because ?Fury got up and proceeded to beat wilder,but I guess that's what knocked out fighters do ,right ?Ha

[Tyistall]

Wilder is now the odd man out. Fury is fighting for 20 million per fight, AJ is fighting for 30 million per fight and Wilder has no opponent and when he does find someone, Wilder will only get 1-2 million and he may even get beat haha. He and Fury made that fight to spite AJ and Hearn but since the fight, Fury has used Wilder to get himself a big contract and now Fury has no intention of rematching Wilder any time soon. Thus leaving Wilder out in the cold even though it was Wilder (and his idiotic fans) screaming that AJ was the odd man out haha. I think it's all poetic justice. Wilder should have strapped his balls on, taken the 20+ million and taken the fight at Wembley for all the belts. Now he's left fighting Kownacki or Breazeale in front of 9k fans for 1 million.

[todisday]

You don't talk to refs if you are knocked out , so i'll stop here. You're another poster i'll stick in my looney bin section . So much so Wilders admitting to being TKO'd in the Sconiers fight and you try role reverse things with its not the same circumstance ? Yea its not because ?Fury got up and proceeded to beat wilder,but I guess that's what knocked out fighters do ,right ?Ha

lol Fury wasn't talking to the ref. He was almost dead. Fury himself said he was out cold.

Wilder admitted to a knockdown, so? Being knocked down hard is way different than a TKO.

Wilder hit Fury with two huge left hooks. If it weren't for all the warranted celebrating at having KOed Fury, he wouldn't have been that gassed. That's the only thing that allowed Fury to fight back.

Just because a fighter wakes up from a KO, gets all that time to recuperate, and is still a decent version of himself afterward doesn't erase that he just got knocked out.

[champion4ever]

Very good comment ^

Name me two opponents on Anthony Joshua's resume that is better than Luis Ortiz and Tyson fury?

[champion4ever]

Question for you, who on Joshua resume beats Fury and Ortiz?

Very Well Said and good post! You better tell em! Since he won't answer the question then I would answer it for him. The answer is absolutely none

[Madison Boxing]

Name me two opponents on Anthony Joshua's resume that is better than Luis Ortiz and Tyson fury?

Klitshko and povetkin more proven than ortz and wilder lost to fury, all that should be on wilders resume in that respect is a loss. Wilder and everyone else thought it would be an easy nights work so dont rewrite history

[Joeboxeo]

I agree 100% with Holyfield