Why Would Mayweather Duck Margarito?

[Dirt E Gomez]

The problem with your whole argument is it's dependent upon believing what Arum said. He said that he offered floyd the 8 million and we just all take his word? Throw in the fact that Margarito wont change the bout of his date to take the fight that he seems to want more than FLoyd and I smell a lot of BS. Apparently you can't.

I never wanted Margarito to fight FLoyd. Now, however, I want PBF to fight him just so I can laugh at this ducking bull**** after he ud's him like 120-108.

[deliveryman]

If he wanted that $8.5M fight, then he would have said "Yes, I'll take it." and worked it out with HBO.

Do you honestly think that HBO would allow Floyd (The second most marketable fighter, and one of the best in the sport), to breach his contract with HBO, and fight as the main attraction to one HBO's main rivals (Toprank) PPV -- less than one month earlier than his original HBO date?

If you think HBO would negotiate that, then you're the most naive person that has ever graced these forums.

You claim that if he was able to negotiate the Judah fight, even after he lost. But the circumstances are a lot different. For the Judah fight:

1) Both were contracted under HBO... and both were already scheduled to fight.

2) The only thing renegotiated was the purse split. I believe Mayweather ended up with 80-20 after the Judah loss, instead of the original 60-40.

[BLOODSHED]

Keep trying to put up a strong front with people telling you how wrong you are.

Wait til Bozo comes.

I understand your frustration, guys. You don't want to believe Floyd is scared to fight someone. It's cool. He's your hero or whatever, so you're going to invent excuses for him.

If he wanted that $8.5M fight, then he would have said "Yes, I'll take it." and worked it out with HBO. Look at how hard Floyd worked to keep the Judah fight ($5.5M) going. LOL He went on a media campaign apologizing for the guy. You're telling me Floyd couldn't fight Margarito in Oct if he wanted to? LOL He wanted the Judah fight, so he made it happen ($5.5M) and he doesn't want Margarito, so he's sticking to his original date (losing an $8.5M guarantee). It's that simple.

I understand you guys feel the need to take up for him. Kudos, that's great. But Floyd is turning down a career-high purse. Floyd runs his career. Arum runs Margaritos. Margarito doesn't have anywhere near the control of his career that Floyd has. You guys all know that. Arum made the offer for the T&M in Oct only. He's already committed to the place, obviously. Floyd is not interested in any negotiation that would give him a career-high payday. He wants to stick to Nov 4th and away from Margarito. He called Margarito "easy work," remember? Then he looked scared when Margarito walked up on him to beg him for a fight, remember? Then he turned down an $8.5M offer to fight him, remember?

Where there's smoke there's fire, kids.

[Bozo_no no]

I understand your frustration, guys. You don't want to believe Floyd is scared to fight someone. It's cool. He's your hero or whatever, so you're going to invent excuses for him.

If he wanted that $8.5M fight, then he would have said "Yes, I'll take it." and worked it out with HBO. Look at how hard Floyd worked to keep the Judah fight ($5.5M) going. LOL He went on a media campaign apologizing for the guy. You're telling me Floyd couldn't fight Margarito in Oct if he wanted to? LOL He wanted the Judah fight, so he made it happen ($5.5M) and he doesn't want Margarito, so he's sticking to his original date (losing an $8.5M guarantee). It's that simple.

I understand you guys feel the need to take up for him. Kudos, that's great. But Floyd is turning down a career-high purse. Floyd runs his career. Arum runs Margaritos. Margarito doesn't have anywhere near the control of his career that Floyd has. You guys all know that. Arum made the offer for the T&M in Oct only. He's already committed to the place, obviously. Floyd is not interested in any negotiation that would give him a career-high payday. He wants to stick to Nov 4th and away from Margarito. He called Margarito "easy work," remember? Then he looked scared when Margarito walked up on him to beg him for a fight, remember? Then he turned down an $8.5M offer to fight him, remember?

Where there's smoke there's fire, kids.

It must be nice to live life so deluded.

You've been exposed as a hatefull ignorant fraud. You've been presented with the facts of the situation, have no answer for them, and so in trademark fashion you spin spin spin away.

Your only leg to stand on is repeating that Floyd "could" just walk away from his HBO date.

It's been explained several times HBO is a rival of Top Rank because they're running their own PPV's. HBO is NOT going to let Floyd walk away from their date they scheduled to fight on a rival card, leaving thier spot empty.

You can't get past this, and you can't come to terms with the fact you've been exposed as ignorant. Stubborn and embarassed, you just keep illustrating how important it is to you to remain critical and hatefull.

Margarito has the option of fighting Floyd on his November date.

He's made no mention of this, and shown no interest in pushing fo it.

You don't have an answer for this either, so you stick your thumbs in your ears and continue to show everyone how petty and foolish you are.

You've been exposed as ignorant. It's over, and now you're only showing how petty you are.

Everyone sees it, and you know it.

Poor little fella.

[AllEyesOpen]

It's obvious that Mech is just gonna keep saying the same ****, with no facts to back it up, so honestly who gives a sh$%.

[Super_Lightweight]

Still don't make any sense to me, if you're the bigger name you have more clout, you call the shots. Mayweather's ducking cause he want the fight on his date is BS, the man is the bigger draw, he puts asses in seats. If Margarito wanted a shot at breaking PBF's winning streak he'd take the extra month to train & face him in Nov. Your argument is Mayweather should take the fight, but I think Margarito needs it more, but I guaranty Floyd will school Margi sooner or later.

Floyd, hate to break it to ya, is not that big of a name and he absolutely does NOT put asses in seat. His fights have been notoriously UNDERSOLD aside from the Gatti fight (which was thanks to Gatti, not Floyd).

It doesn't matter who you think 'needs' the fight more. Mayweather is number one p4p and you cannot KEEP that nomer by fighting Gattis and Sharmba Mitchells. The time is long overdue for Floyd to step it up. When he went to 135 he went after the toughest hombre in that division. He needs to stop stalling and take a on a similar tough hombre in Margarito, or he can relinquish his p4p status...period.

[GunStar]

Floyd, hate to break it to ya, is not that big of a name and he absolutely does NOT put asses in seat. His fights have been notoriously UNDERSOLD aside from the Gatti fight (which was thanks to Gatti, not Floyd).

It doesn't matter who you think 'needs' the fight more. Mayweather is number one p4p and you cannot KEEP that nomer by fighting Gattis and Sharmba Mitchells. The time is long overdue for Floyd to step it up. When he went to 135 he went after the toughest hombre in that division. He needs to stop stalling and take a on a similar tough hombre in Margarito, or he can relinquish his p4p status...period.

Zab fight did very good numbers, again I don't what you talking about like 99% of the time. So your saying Zab, Gatti & Mitchell are all bums??? Zab was the #1 man in welterweight division before he lost the close fight to Baldy, people didn't want PBF fight Baldy, so he picked the best man in the welterweight division and won.

[Easy-E]

Floyd, hate to break it to ya, is not that big of a name and he absolutely does NOT put asses in seat. His fights have been notoriously UNDERSOLD aside from the Gatti fight (which was thanks to Gatti, not Floyd).

It doesn't matter who you think 'needs' the fight more. Mayweather is number one p4p and you cannot KEEP that nomer by fighting Gattis and Sharmba Mitchells. The time is long overdue for Floyd to step it up. When he went to 135 he went after the toughest hombre in that division. He needs to stop stalling and take a on a similar tough hombre in Margarito, or he can relinquish his p4p status...period.

Floyd put up 300,000+ in his last two PPV's.
So umm...what exactly are you talking about?

[Super_Lightweight]

300,000 is a drop in the bucket. You do realize this, right? Klitschko-Williams got almost 100,000 more than that. The REAL ppv draw in the sport is De La Hoya and no one else. If you can't crack 450,000 buys when you fight the recent welterweight champ, then you are NOT putting asses in seats.

As I said, and as HBO has noted in some of PBF's biggest fights, the arena has been undersold.

Please do try hard not to take anything I say personally.

[GunStar]

300,000 is a drop in the bucket. You do realize this, right? Klitschko-Williams got almost 100,000 more than that. The REAL ppv draw in the sport is De La Hoya and no one else. If you can't crack 450,000 buys when you fight the recent welterweight champ, then you are NOT putting asses in seats.

As I said, and as HBO has noted in some of PBF's biggest fights, the arena has been undersold.

Please do try hard not to take anything I say personally.

It was more like 350,000. Continue your hate!