Tyson Fury had no intention of fighting Wilder next.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Tyson Fury is probably my favourite active fighter but I'm disappointed with how he's gone about these rematch talks.

By most accounts Fury won the first fight, so if he doesn't feel like he needs to rematch Wilder then that's fair enough in my eyes. But why string the fans along as if the rematch is happening next? All we've heard from Warren and Fury for months is the Wilder rematch is happening next and an announcement is imminent. Clearly that was never the case.

Fury made some comments about a month ago that alarmed me, something along the lines of "Even if it's not Wilder next I'll be out in May" I raised my eyebrow at it but thought nothing of it. It makes sense why he said that now.

Bob Arum's comments in the media and high praise of Fury make sense now also.

Warren tried to say at the Presser that this deal has come about in the last week. Yeah.....right. Somehow I doubt that.

Strung the fans along for months now when they had no intention of a rematch. Atleast not next anyway.

Poor from Fury and Warren. Alot of UK fans like myself who were planning on traveling have had things on hold all this time for no reason.

You have to be honest with yourself, Tyson Fury is a talented fighter but? He has not shown any of the attributes of a great champion ever. He seems not to like immediate rematches, and believes that telling stories wins him fights 'Without even fighting them' Sometimes fights don't happen, because of business but there is no reason why Tyson Fury should not rematch Deontay Wilder. Yes Wilder gets out boxed in most of his fights at elite level, but he always thusfar fights a way to knock his opponent out or brutally hurting them. 'And the fact of the matter is? Deontay Wilder at 212 pounds, stuck to his simple gameplan all night vs Tyson Fury, and kept on coming all night and? Knocked down Tyson Fury twice, and during the second knock down, he ended Tyson Fury's career for afew seconds 'Deep down Tyson Fury understands that these big boys named Deontay Wilder and Anthony Joshua are not straight up dossers' and when he stated 'Deontay Wilder I am coming for you baby, in a recent interview? I don't sense a massive amount of venom, conviction or confidence' not like when he was threaten Wilder before the first fight.

Wilder has put some serious fear into Tyson Fury, otherwise? He would not be training like a maniac, never before in his career has Tyson Fury had this mindset towards training. 'He has always bragged about eating whatever he wants and partying inbetween fights'....I don't see any of that now at all, this could be good or bad, is he being himself? Or he is being forced to change, this is a good ability for a fighter to change but in some athletes this deep down does not workout.

I think the rematch will happen, Fury just understands that some of these heavyweights are not so simple to beat now. 'He understands that his one dimensional style at elite level, needs changing' Fury used to speak about being the only big ma who can fight on the inside like Rid**** Bowe, he needs some of these dimensions back.

Anthony Joshua is more durable, and maybe has just as much power as Wilder 'Joshua would of finished Tyson Fury if he was inside that ring after the last knock-down' Tyson Fury understands all of this, that is why he is taking time/training and possibly focusing on other fighters to improve.

[BattlingNelson]

Perhaps early days.

But I'd say for atleast a month + he's known Wilder ain't happening.

I just watched Warren's interview on Boxing Social and he said "Fury wants to be out end of April or early May and that's what we'll do"

Exactly what Fury said at the start of the year "with or without Wilder"

It's clear as day to me. They've known for a long time.

And also to act like signing with BOB ARUM isn't a massive roadblock for a fight with an Al Haymon fighter is also just insulting our intelligence beyond belief.

Yes. Of course they knew. This is a money grab and a major obstacle in creating the rematch for financial reasons. Now of course this is a business as well as a sport so in that light it’s far from a first and I don’t really blame him. Again as you said it’s bad for fans contemplating traveling, but it’s still a few months away so no fan should have lost anything.

One thing more that is worth noting, is that fury recently said something about him just wanting a flat fee rather than percentages which indicates him being easier to strike a deal with than most other top fighters. That image just died.

I am personally not a particular fan of any of the top three, but rather a fan of big heavyweight fights for which we have been starved for years. Now it looks like the famine continues which is sad for the sport.

[01samuelc]

Watch the post fight interview and you can tell he had no intention of fighting him anytime soon. I'll always maintain tyson is very much like floyd who doesn't step into the ring with someone unless the odds are fully in his favour. Fury was also pushing for the david haye fight because he could tell haye was done for before a lot of people in boxing realised.

[01samuelc]

You have to be honest with yourself, Tyson Fury is a talented fighter but? He has not shown any of the attributes of a great champion ever. He seems not to like immediate rematches, and believes that telling stories wins him fights 'Without even fighting them' Sometimes fights don't happen, because of business but there is no reason why Tyson Fury should not rematch Deontay Wilder. Yes Wilder gets out boxed in most of his fights at elite level, but he always thusfar fights a way to knock his opponent out or brutally hurting them. 'And the fact of the matter is? Deontay Wilder at 212 pounds, stuck to his simple gameplan all night vs Tyson Fury, and kept on coming all night and? Knocked down Tyson Fury twice, and during the second knock down, he ended Tyson Fury's career for afew seconds 'Deep down Tyson Fury understands that these big boys named Deontay Wilder and Anthony Joshua are not straight up dossers' and when he stated 'Deontay Wilder I am coming for you baby, in a recent interview? I don't sense a massive amount of venom, conviction or confidence' not like when he was threaten Wilder before the first fight.

Wilder has put some serious fear into Tyson Fury, otherwise? He would not be training like a maniac, never before in his career has Tyson Fury had this mindset towards training. 'He has always bragged about eating whatever he wants and partying inbetween fights'....I don't see any of that now at all, this could be good or bad, is he being himself? Or he is being forced to change, this is a good ability for a fighter to change but in some athletes this deep down does not workout.

I think the rematch will happen, Fury just understands that some of these heavyweights are not so simple to beat now. 'He understands that his one dimensional style at elite level, needs changing' Fury used to speak about being the only big ma who can fight on the inside like Rid**** Bowe, he needs some of these dimensions back.

Anthony Joshua is more durable, and maybe has just as much power as Wilder 'Joshua would of finished Tyson Fury if he was inside that ring after the last knock-down' Tyson Fury understands all of this, that is why he is taking time/training and possibly focusing on other fighters to improve.

Exactly! If fury really wanted to fight Joshua, he would have shouted to the rooftops on that one. He wasn't joking when he told wilder "You think you're cherrypicking me but it's the other way round deontay".

[PRINCEKOOL]

Watch the post fight interview and you can tell he had no intention of fighting him anytime soon. I'll always maintain tyson is very much like floyd who doesn't step into the ring with someone unless the odds are fully in his favour. Fury was also pushing for the david haye fight because he could tell haye was done for before a lot of people in boxing realised.

David Haye was the last real fighter I supported heavily and had a deep rapport with, when I watched the Chisora vs Haye back afew months ago? I could see that injuries, where already showing up inside of the ring. I also speculate and read just talk on the street, that David Haye was in immense condition for the Fury fight but basically? His body could not make it through the training camps. 'Adam booth knew this, that is why he no longer wanted to train David Haye in my opinion'. I was not aware until I read David Haye's book, how difficult his camps where 'He was a like a formula 1 car, very specific and astute operating window' when he was in that window he was immensely dangerous.

Technically I think Tyson Fury knew his style of boxing could bambozel Deontay Wilder, a fighter who gets out boxed routinely at elite level, he drops rounds all the time! People where acting as if Tyson Fury was taking rounds off A heavyweight Floyd Mayweather or Lennox Lewis. 'He out boxed Deontay Wilder abit, never really beat him up and was decked twice' In my eyes that is not defeating somebody easily.

It will be interesting as to who Tyson Fury fights next, because he has recently be slating Joshua for fighting Miller. 'And has cleverly told a irrelivent story that he knocked down Miller 7 times, in order to discredit that entire match up'

I don't see Tyson Fury calling Joshua a dosser or abusing heavyweights that much anymore, I have noticed a vivid change in his demeanor since the Wilder fight. 'Whyte was Fury will be a good fight'.

[Marchegiano]

Wilder can't generate money without Fury or Joshua , he'll make no more then 3 million if he's lucky and the other two can average 15 and that's low for them with the deals they have.

Fury came back with the thought of fighting Joshua. That thought left quickly when he demanded 60% and then signed with Warren and turmed his head in the direction of a far easier fight with a far easier opponent named Wilder he fought for 50% .

Yeah, yeah. You know why they accuse y'all of being racist?

It's because you use the same excuses to protect men while hoping to see others held back as they did.

The colorline was only business as well. If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, there's probably a reason for that right?

Dempsey should have fought Wills though right? And Sam Langford should have gotten his shot right? And George Godfrey should have been allowed a chance at John L. Sullivan right?

I've never heard anyone agree with what happened to Wills, but, I do see people currently agreeing with the conduct that lead to Wills being relegated to 'colored' ranks. I'm not sure you all actually know what you are saying.

I mean, you realize throughout the entirety of the colorline black fighters did fight white fighters right? They just weren't allowed to fight high profile whites because white people made more money fighting other white people. Purely business...not racist. Until modernization and then it's retrospectively called racist almost unanimously.

So I have to wonder. Are y'all just racists actually or were you confused when youse claim things like the colorline was a bad thing for boxing? With that explanation do you still see the colorline as racist or do you think it was just good business?

Keeping in mind the moment black boxers were allowed to be paid they broke records pretty damn instantly. Even in later years when the colorline is a generation behind us. Between Marciano and Patterson, Patterson was paid much more handsomely.

So was it good business or was it unfair bull**** spin that was presented in a logical way but only actually equated to a certain type of person being protected from another type?



I realize there are plenty of transitives you could assume I'm highlighting about Wilder-Fury through the colorline, but, it's like I said folks like them LDBC guys reckon lots of y'all in the UK are racists because they see those transitives. There's no way for my to explain the colorline as a business practice and it not seem like I'm talking about Deontay a little bit and I don't feel like that because I project racism so much as you lot jump right into the role. I'm not sure youse know you're doing it.

If it's fair for Joshua or Fury to take fights against bums and no-hopers then why wasn't it fair for the whites to exclude the blacks? Seems like a trade, colorline for moneyline....which is kind of how the colorline got started in the first place, but, this post is already long so I'll leave that for another history lesson.

[BoxingFan85]

I agree with you.

But don't pretend like you are doing the rematch and stringing us all along.

That's not cool.

Let's not pretend that it is not what that cünt Fury does everytime. Although he won the first fight imo he sucks at honoring rematches.

[LoadedWraps]

The cheater didn’t win if he didn’t want to fight all he had to simply do is say I’m not fighting Wilder next. Be professional. He was scared as he was nearly killed and probably suffered a brain injury also. He cheated and still nearly was put to sleep by a skinny man who was 50lbs lighter than him. He’s not a professional he’s a cheater and shouldn’t have even been able to fight Wilder with that crap he pulled with the wbc/Vada any other fighter does that and you people are ready to riot

[kafkod]

Yeah, yeah. You know why they accuse y'all of being racist?

It's because you use the same excuses to protect men while hoping to see others held back as they did.

The colorline was only business as well. If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, there's probably a reason for that right?

Dempsey should have fought Wills though right? And Sam Langford should have gotten his shot right? And George Godfrey should have been allowed a chance at John L. Sullivan right?

I've never heard anyone agree with what happened to Wills, but, I do see people currently agreeing with the conduct that lead to Wills being relegated to 'colored' ranks. I'm not sure you all actually know what you are saying.

I mean, you realize throughout the entirety of the colorline black fighters did fight white fighters right? They just weren't allowed to fight high profile whites because white people made more money fighting other white people. Purely business...not racist. Until modernization and then it's retrospectively called racist almost unanimously.

So I have to wonder. Are y'all just racists actually or were you confused when youse claim things like the colorline was a bad thing for boxing? With that explanation do you still see the colorline as racist or do you think it was just good business?

Keeping in mind the moment black boxers were allowed to be paid they broke records pretty damn instantly. Even in later years when the colorline is a generation behind us. Between Marciano and Patterson, Patterson was paid much more handsomely.

So was it good business or was it unfair bull**** spin that was presented in a logical way but only actually equated to a certain type of person being protected from another type?



I realize there are plenty of transitives you could assume I'm highlighting about Wilder-Fury through the colorline, but, it's like I said folks like them LDBC guys reckon lots of y'all in the UK are racists because they see those transitives. There's no way for my to explain the colorline as a business practice and it not seem like I'm talking about Deontay a little bit and I don't feel like that because I project racism so much as you lot jump right into the role. I'm not sure youse know you're doing it.

If it's fair for Joshua or Fury to take fights against bums and no-hopers then why wasn't it fair for the whites to exclude the blacks? Seems like a trade, colorline for moneyline....which is kind of how the colorline got started in the first place, but, this post is already long so I'll leave that for another history lesson.

Allow me to cut through the nonsensical American "white vs black" racial crap and point something out to you ... Wilder has based his whole career on fighting bums and no-hopers. He only wanted to fight Fury because Tyson looked so terrible in his 2 comeback fights!

Fury and AJ have both beaten Wlad Klitschko. AJ beat him in his 19th fight. Fury beat him in his 25th fight. Fury's victory over Wlad came less than a year after Shelly Finkel had vetoed a unification fight between Wlad and Wilder with the now infamous words, “Look, Wilder is a baby winning the title. It was his first title fight. It's not the right thing yet."

Baby Wilder was WBC champion, 29 years old, 33 - 0 at that time.

[Marchegiano]

Allow me to cut through the nonsensical American "white vs black" racial crap and point something out to you ... Wilder has based his whole career on fighting bums and no-hopers. He only wanted to fight Fury because Tyson looked so terrible in his 2 comeback fights!

Fury and AJ have both beaten Wlad Klitschko. AJ beat him in his 19th fight. Fury beat him in his 25th fight. Fury's victory over Wlad came less than a year after Shelly Finkel had vetoed a unfication fight between Wlad and Wilder with the now infamous words, “Look, Wilder is a baby winning the title. It was his first title fight. It's not the right thing yet."

Baby Wilder was WBC champion, 29 years old, 33 - 0 at that time.

I realize your post is short and mine long but I'm not going to read **** that's not connected.

I didn't talk about Wilder. I even clearly pointed out I'm not talking about Wilder. I spoke about the **** you say and some boxing history.

Address it or shut the **** up.