Let's put an end to this Margarito and plaster nonsense.

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  • LetOutTheCage
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    #131
    Proven cheat, his legacy will for ever be tainted

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    • sugar ray lenrd
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      #132
      Originally posted by Boxingraya
      Tony took off the gloves and shook hands with everyone after destroying Cotto. Plus how do you explain Cotto's corner and CSAC signing off on the wrappings?
      Ohhh That's easy....Cotto's Corner, his Uncle funk up, they decided that there was no need to send someone into MargoCheato's dressing room & the rest is history. And let me tell you how it goes down in the dressing room, sometimes (i'm not saying all the times, but i've witnessed this) they don't even feel the fighters hand wraps especially when the fighter is considered the home field advantage as was the case here. The CSAC just sign off on the back of the hand. Remember this was a high profile boxing match.

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      • sugar ray lenrd
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        #133
        Originally posted by Frankie2Jabs
        Sure. But boxing is a dark sport on the political side, and even today with high profile fights, trainers benefit from any noise knowing it can cause controversy afterwards and it benefits the losing side. Even in Reddit forums, where people would question how Kovalev "broke" his gloves in by hitting walls. How does this general info get leaked? Would it have been John David Jackson and the people he's generally affiliated with? Remember it was Richardson who spotted Capetillo's wraps, the same Richardson who had Bhop vs Kova/JDJ.

        We don't know if Capetillo has had enemies that they would leak info to GBP. From Roach complaining about Floyd's wraps vs Pacquiao. From Floyd seeing Maidana's gloves with no padding in the front knuckles. From GGG opponents complaining about his "small gloves" and more weight at the wrists, to Abel Sanches like Roach complaining about wrapping.

        All those stir noise, but the reality is that Capetillo can no longer work a corner in the USA. They literally found Plaster of Paris derivatives in the wraps they confiscated. Capetillo admitted his tamperings. Because Mosley wasn't physically touched by the wraps, luckily no charges were towards Capetillo.

        Ironically, Mosley was using EPO and other anabolic steroids to stay relevant in the scene, especially in a time before advanced drug testing.

        Boxing is an ugly sport, but I guess that's what love about it. But with the Resto wraps... that's oldschool shady prize fighting. Loadedwraps was a common practice from the past.
        Dude,
        He Cheated....cut it out, you're smarter than that.

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        • kingdruid
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          #134
          Cotto lost because of Margarito's style, same reason why he lost to Pacquiao. Cotto can't take constant pressure, anyone who thinks the handwraps had anything to do with the first loss, then you obviously don't know boxing.

          Second fight, Margarito's eye was already ****ed up by Pacquiao, all Cotto needed to do was target it which is what he did and they stopped the fight due to the eye.

          It's obvious if you know about boxing and have studied the sport, but I don't expect casual fans to understand that, you can blame the wraps, in the end your going to believe what you want.

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          • sugar ray lenrd
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            #135
            Originally posted by kingdruid
            Cotto lost because of Margarito's style, same reason why he lost to Pacquiao. Cotto can't take constant pressure, anyone who thinks the handwraps had anything to do with the first loss, then you obviously don't know boxing.

            Second fight, Margarito's eye was already ****ed up by Pacquiao, all Cotto needed to do was target it which is what he did and they stopped the fight due to the eye.

            It's obvious if you know about boxing and have studied the sport, but I don't expect casual fans to understand that, you can blame the wraps, in the end your going to believe what you want.
            Son,
            I am no casual fan, I'm a former fighter & currently a trainer. And while yes you have a good assessment in that Cotto was tiring in the 1st fight & yes MargoCheato does have good stamina. But Margarcheato was able to slow Cotto down because of the plaster which was later in the fight like the 6th rnd. It is consistent with the hardening of the moist/wet wraps (which takes 15-30 mins to hardened) without the bricks Cotto's face does no get busted up. MargoCheato does not have punching power like that. Conventional wisdom will say he attempted to use Plaster wraps for Sugar Shane Mosley (facts!!!) who MargoCheato was heavil favorite to beat. and we are to ignore, Cotto a fighter he was an underdog against, that he's not gonna try to use the PLASTER???

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            • Evil_Meat
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              #136
              Lol I was a real **** disturber one day and commented on a Cotto nuthugger’sYouTube video about the fact that there’s no proof Margarito cheated vs Cotto (the description claimed Margaraito was actually caught vs Cotto). The amount of hate I received was incredible. It’s amazing that when enough people believe something it basically becomes a fact. People are convinced Margarito was actually caught vs Cotto which is basically a made up reality. I was looked at as a complete idiot (and called much worse), because people can’t handle FACTS. There’s nothing to debate here... the ts is 100% right. Facts are facts.

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              • Evil_Meat
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                #137
                Originally posted by sugar ray lenrd
                Son,
                I am no casual fan, I'm a former fighter & currently a trainer. And while yes you have a good assessment in that Cotto was tiring in the 1st fight & yes MargoCheato does have good stamina. But Margarcheato was able to slow Cotto down because of the plaster which was later in the fight like the 6th rnd. It is consistent with the hardening of the moist/wet wraps (which takes 15-30 mins to hardened) without the bricks Cotto's face does no get busted up. MargoCheato does not have punching power like that. Conventional wisdom will say he attempted to use Plaster wraps for Sugar Shane Mosley (facts!!!) who MargoCheato was heavil favorite to beat. and we are to ignore, Cotto a fighter he was an underdog against, that he's not gonna try to use the PLASTER???
                You can put out your opinion as much as you want... At the end of the day the FACT is that there’s no proof Margarito cheated against Cotto.

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                • sugar ray lenrd
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                  #138
                  Originally posted by Evil_Meat
                  You can put out your opinion as much as you want... At the end of the day the FACT is that there’s no proof Margarito cheated against Cotto.
                  Yeah...aha...Dude, he wasn't caught but in his next fight they attemted the same thing only this time Naz Richardson went into MargoCheato's dressing room to watch unlike team Cotto...

                  Questions:
                  -does MargoCheato have punching power?

                  -Did MargoCheato bust people up in fights after PLASTER-GATE?

                  -Has MargoCheato ever scored another KO after the PLASTER-GATE?
                  Last edited by sugar ray lenrd; 02-08-2019, 11:32 AM.

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                  • QueensburyRules
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                    #139
                    Originally posted by sugar ray lenrd
                    Son,
                    I am no casual fan, I'm a former fighter & currently a trainer. And while yes you have a good assessment in that Cotto was tiring in the 1st fight & yes MargoCheato does have good stamina. But Margarcheato was able to slow Cotto down because of the plaster which was later in the fight like the 6th rnd. It is consistent with the hardening of the moist/wet wraps (which takes 15-30 mins to hardened) without the bricks Cotto's face does no get busted up. MargoCheato does not have punching power like that. Conventional wisdom will say he attempted to use Plaster wraps for Sugar Shane Mosley (facts!!!) who MargoCheato was heavil favorite to beat. and we are to ignore, Cotto a fighter he was an underdog against, that he's not gonna try to use the PLASTER???
                    --- You sure ain't no Sugar Ray.

                    Closer to Daisy May. End of the day Marg only fought with approved wraps just like Cotto and Mosley.

                    And you still in your diaper wraps.

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                    • Thuglife Nelo
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                      #140
                      Originally posted by sugar ray lenrd
                      Dude,
                      He Cheated....cut it out, you're smarter than that.
                      Yes. I wrote numerous in the thread claiming he cheated. In fact, you quoted me saying he cheated

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