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  • #41
    Give him 500k and make the fight.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34 View Post
      I looked at the rankings and it’s weird that a considerable top 5 or top 10 heavyweight isn’t even in the top 10 rankings for none of AJ’s belts except for the WBA and he’s barely there at #11!
      Do you even watch boxing ? Ortiz is lucky to be #11 with the WBA he got kicked out of teh WBA rankings for failing a drugs test.

      He's not ranked by anyone else because he's fought nobodies since Wilder. According to boxrec he has fought just twice since Wilder the 95th and 210th rated heavyweights.

      What do you expect for that another title shot ???

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      • #43
        No way AJ/Hearn & Co. Take this fight. Far too dangerous for very little reward.

        If AJ did take this fight somehow, it would restore a lot of his credibility, IMO.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by mawoodhouse View Post
          If Wilder couldn't knock him out cold, Joshua certainly wont. When was the last time you saw Joshua knock anyone cold?
          Joshua will make a huge statement on the old man.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by -Scott.Weiland- View Post
            This post is nonsense. AJ just fought Povetkin for a start and before that he fought a unification against another undefeated opponent like Miller will be, now I don’t even care for AJ vs Miller but I’d damn sure prefer to see it over an Ortiz fight, wtf has Ortiz done to be considered for another title fight ? Sure Ortiz is dangerous but he has absolutely the worst conditioning I’ve seen from any fighter at world level amongst the heavyweights in a long while.
            This is why I'd prefer to see AJ against Miller.

            Let's be honest: AJ beats them both.

            But at least with Miller, I see a path to victory. Be physical, tire AJ out, and keep up a high work rate in the second half of the fight.

            Against Ortiz? AJ knocks him out every time. He's just not in shape to fight these top guys. Still a fun fight, but I know the result.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by -Scott.Weiland- View Post
              This post is nonsense. AJ just fought Povetkin for a start and before that he fought a unification against another undefeated opponent like Miller will be, now I don’t even care for AJ vs Miller but I’d damn sure prefer to see it over an Ortiz fight, wtf has Ortiz done to be considered for another title fight ? Sure Ortiz is dangerous but he has absolutely the worst conditioning I’ve seen from any fighter at world level amongst the heavyweights in a long while.
              My HW rankings are

              1. Fury
              2. AJ
              3. Wilder
              4. Ortiz
              5. Whyte

              ESPN and Ring have Ortiz 5 and Whyte 4.

              I rank Ortiz higher because he lasted longer and was only down by 1 point on all 3 cards.

              Whyte only won like 1-2 rounds. And you want to talk about out of shape Whyte could barely even stand up like around the 5th round. He was gassing as ***.

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              • #47
                These Brits just love to name drop ortiz for some reason I hope one would actually attempt to follow through

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Jax teller View Post
                  What guys has Ortiz fought to get in the top rankings in all the systems, especially since his loss, is my point?

                  I'm not attacking his skillset or saying whether those fighters would beat him just that they have probably followed the rules more to acheive their rankings. If you're not fighting guys in the top 50 you can't expect to be ranked top ten across the board.

                  Chillout, don't get so defensive.
                  This isn't about him being at the top of the rankings. This is about boxing fans saying that Ortiz is the best available HW to fight in the US. The response from you when someone said it was crazy that he was ranked in the alphabet rankings at 11th was that he hadn't fought anybody. The point was who else other than Fury, Wilder, and Joshua have fought somebody to push Ortiz out of the top 10.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Shadoww702 View Post
                    My HW rankings are

                    1. Fury
                    2. AJ
                    3. Wilder
                    4. Ortiz
                    5. Whyte

                    ESPN and Ring have Ortiz 5 and Whyte 4.

                    I rank Ortiz higher because he lasted longer and was only down by 1 point on all 3 cards.

                    Whyte only won like 1-2 rounds. And you want to talk about out of shape Whyte could barely even stand up like around the 5th round. He was gassing as ***.
                    Whyte is garbage yet he’s more deserving than some of these other clowns being touted around for a title shot hell he’s just as deserving of a title shot as Miller is if not more.

                    I don’t rate any of the heavies outside of the top three aside from maybe Povetkin followed closely by the like of Pulev then Ortiz, all those boys are too old now with maybe the exception of Pulev who we can’t reallt gauge until he tests himself again at world level.

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                    • #50
                      AJ will duck Ortiz again.

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