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  • kafkod
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    #81
    Originally posted by P4P Forever
    I did some quick research the card Grossed approx. $24M in PPV buys, not sure about the live gate. Guessing 15M
    the pay outs don't include PPV % or other income related to the fight. Just the guarantee. Pac vs Broner similar PPV #s. I believe they can reach tho's # again probably higher this time. So not sure where your getting $50 M in purses???

    payouts for the PPV card, which starts at 9 PM ET:
    Deontay Wilder (40-0Here are the , 39 KOs) $4,000,000
    Tyson Fury (27-0, 19 KOs) $3,000,000
    Jarrett Hurd (22-0, 15 KOs) $1,000,000
    Jason Welborn (24-6, 7 KOs) $30,000
    Luis Ortiz (29-1-1 NC, 25 KOs) $375,000
    Travis Kauffman (32-2, 23 KOs) $125,000
    Joe Joyce (6-0, 6 KOs) $40,000
    Joe Hanks (23-2, 15 KOs)
    Good post.

    The $50million in purses came from somebody who isn't very good at maths, lol. It's going to be interesting to see how close the purses for the rematch can get to that, assuming it happens.

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    • The plunger man
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      #82
      Originally posted by P4P Forever
      I did some quick research the card Grossed approx. $24M in PPV buys, not sure about the live gate. Guessing 15M
      the pay outs don't include PPV % or other income related to the fight. Just the guarantee. Pac vs Broner similar PPV #s. I believe they can reach tho's # again probably higher this time. So not sure where your getting $50 M in purses???

      payouts for the PPV card, which starts at 9 PM ET:
      Deontay Wilder (40-0Here are the , 39 KOs) $4,000,000
      Tyson Fury (27-0, 19 KOs) $3,000,000
      Jarrett Hurd (22-0, 15 KOs) $1,000,000
      Jason Welborn (24-6, 7 KOs) $30,000
      Luis Ortiz (29-1-1 NC, 25 KOs) $375,000
      Travis Kauffman (32-2, 23 KOs) $125,000
      Joe Joyce (6-0, 6 KOs) $40,000
      Joe Hanks (23-2, 15 KOs)
      so basically wilder was offered 20 million to AJ at Wembley in April and yet he he was satisfied with 4 million against fury.
      Wilder has no ****in brain in that skull of his

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        #83
        Originally posted by The plunger man
        so basically wilder was offered 20 million to AJ at Wembley in April and yet he he was satisfied with 4 million against fury.
        Wilder has no ****in brain in that skull of his
        Lol, yes and no, Those are only the guarantees = Purses. PPV and possibility other revenue probably netted each around $10M. My guess is whatever Hearn offered was a flat fee. Not even, Whyte was willing to take a flat fee for Joshua rematch, i.e. Miller is now in play or about to be.

        Al's fighter seem quite loyal if not brain dead at times or ? Example, Roc Nation supposedly offered AB (Bronner) $40M to sign with them. That's got to be looking pretty good about now for AB, yet he dis them publicly after the offer was made but has 40M excuses why he lost badly to 40 yr old Pac Man.

        Hearn comes off as arrogant at times. I remember reading he was teasing about he was going to take off a $1M from his initial offer of $12.5M cuz Wilder looked poor vs Ortiz. Now it's bye by Wembley and hello MSG. So not sure what the official offer was to Wilder? Hearn wearing egg on his face as he let Wider get away and there go's the golden egg.

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          #84
          Originally posted by kafkod
          AJ, Miller, Whyte, Usyk, Bivol, Callum Smith, Jacobs, Andrade, probably GGG, and he's only been operating in the States for 5 minutes.
          AJ & Whyte aren't signed to DAZN first off as far as I know. Whyte isn't even signed to Matchroom from my understanding. GGG is likely to be a DAZN signup not a Matchroom signup I'd assume. And the rest while not sucking aren't big sellers in the US where DAZN is trying to make in roads into the market.

          Best move for DAZN so far has been made by DAZN not Eddie & thats Canelo.

          Best move by Eddie for DAZN has probably been securing Jacobs on an extension post-HBO deal or it could be Usyk long term if he pans out beats Joshua & becomes a more mainstream draw somehow.

          I think the consensus is his Matchroom USA signings have left something to be desired. His US shows have pretty much been trash thus far.

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            #85
            Originally posted by marvin douglas
            No, this is a hard fight to sell on pursue bid. PPV of a rematch of a great heavyweight fight should be easy to sell, but the problem is both guys want big time guaranteed money.

            According to the numbers (300,000 buys at $50 a buy) the fight grossed over 150 million. Who has the money to back that up?

            Both guys probably want 50 mill each in the bank before they step into the ring. The promoter who wins the bid will have to put up a lot of money to cover the guarantees and the promotional costs.
            Your calculation has cost many people their goodnight sleep

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              #86
              Originally posted by Eff Pandas
              AJ & Whyte aren't signed to DAZN first off as far as I know. Whyte isn't even signed to Matchroom from my understanding. GGG is likely to be a DAZN signup not a Matchroom signup I'd assume. And the rest while not sucking aren't big sellers in the US where DAZN is trying to make in roads into the market.

              Best move for DAZN so far has been made by DAZN not Eddie & thats Canelo.

              Best move by Eddie for DAZN has probably been securing Jacobs on an extension post-HBO deal or it could be Usyk long term if he pans out beats Joshua & becomes a more mainstream draw somehow.

              I think the consensus is his Matchroom USA signings have left something to be desired. His US shows have pretty much been trash thus far.
              What you seem to be saying here is that either everybody who fights on DAZN has to have a multi fight contract with Matchroom USA, or Hearn is a failure. That's nonsense.

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                #87
                Originally posted by P4P Forever
                Lol, yes and no, Those are only the guarantees = Purses. PPV and possibility other revenue probably netted each around $10M. My guess is whatever Hearn offered was a flat fee. Not even, Whyte was willing to take a flat fee for Joshua rematch, i.e. Miller is now in play or about to be.

                Al's fighter seem quite loyal if not brain dead at times or ? Example, Roc Nation supposedly offered AB (Bronner) $40M to sign with them. That's got to be looking pretty good about now for AB, yet he dis them publicly after the offer was made but has 40M excuses why he lost badly to 40 yr old Pac Man.

                Hearn comes off as arrogant at times. I remember reading he was teasing about he was going to take off a $1M from his initial offer of $12.5M cuz Wilder looked poor vs Ortiz. Now it's bye by Wembley and hello MSG. So not sure what the official offer was to Wilder? Hearn wearing egg on his face as he let Wider get away and there go's the golden egg.
                Fury specifically asked Hearn for a flat fee offer to fight AJ, rather than a percentage cut, because he doesn't like his money to be dependent on PPV sales.

                I don't believe Hearn let Wilder get away, because I don't believe Wilder ever had any intention of fighting AJ. It was all just posturing on his part.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by thabanga510
                  He just lost the Warrington bid to Frank Warren. When will his fighters realize Joshua is the only fighter he is willing to spend money on?
                  He was quite open on that one.

                  Two things were key:
                  BT expected to make it ppv
                  Sky Sports/matchroom didn’t think it was ppv worthy

                  If frank lost the bid then likelihood is that warrington dropped the belt and the fight never happened

                  Eddie was therefore quite vocal on saying he fully expected to lose this bid. That’s why I’m interested how much the bids were for

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by marvin douglas
                    No, this is a hard fight to sell on pursue bid. PPV of a rematch of a great heavyweight fight should be easy to sell, but the problem is both guys want big time guaranteed money.

                    According to the numbers (300,000 buys at $50 a buy) the fight grossed over 150 million. Who has the money to back that up?

                    Both guys probably want 50 mill each in the bank before they step into the ring. The promoter who wins the bid will have to put up a lot of money to cover the guarantees and the promotional costs.
                    What a genius you are mate, 300k x 50 = 150m. Your maths teacher would be very proud...Typical Wilder fan girl who knows her maths...not!

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by kafkod
                      Fury specifically asked Hearn for a flat fee offer to fight AJ, rather than a percentage cut, because he doesn't like his money to be dependent on PPV sales.

                      I don't believe Hearn let Wilder get away, because I don't believe Wilder ever had any intention of fighting AJ. It was all just posturing on his part.
                      He did, Hearn blew it!!! IM not on the inside as I'm guessing your not either. If fury asked for flat I'm not aware of that. Please provide proof as I'm not aware they were ever in negotiations. Wilder was Tho! What was the flat fee Fury wanted?

                      I read Hearn saying cuz of his (Wilders) performance with Ortiz he was going to take a million off of the previous $12.5M flat fee offer to Wilder, arrogant and it back fired! AJ don't want that work but he felt Wilder should get less. Haha ha.

                      Yet AJ hasn't fought in how long? He's running scared of Whyte who refused a flat fee, I heard $7M (Whyte) This is hilarious. Does Hearn Pay you to say this ??? He had Wimberly lined up for how long? 6 months but gonna fight Miller in NYC, Lmfao.

                      Yet your telling me that's what Fury wanted a (flat fee) but accepted $3m Purse and a slice of PPV for Wilder lol!!!! Seriously and this is Wilder avoiding AJ or AJ avoid Wilder and Ortiz or any hard work. I'm sure Wilder din't want flat fee but your excuse for Hearn is Fury wanted a flat fee. I'm not getting it.

                      Dose anyone else get this or are you just making this up cuz your on Hearn's payroll? Wilder is re matching Fury after KOing Ortiz and AJ is fighting Miller in US @ MSG after fighting Povetkin and then hiding for a year. Wow. Lord Help me lord!
                      Last edited by P4P Forever; 02-06-2019, 01:24 AM.

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