Comments Thread For: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury Rematch Purse Bid is Postponed

[kafkod]

When was the last time Eddie won a purse bid? Honest question because he keeps losing recently

I don't know, tbh. I don't pay much attention to purse bids unless they are for major fights and I see them being discussed on line.

All the recent purse bids I remember Hearn taking part in, his guy was a challenger and not a big name, like the one today between Galahad and Warrington, which I heard him saying he wasn't expecting to win.

The exception to that was Whyte/Pulev, but that was a strange one, because Hearn beat Pulev's promoter, which was all he thought he needed to do. But a third outfit, who nobody expected to be taking part, came in with a huge bid and beat both of them.

[Ake-Dawg]

ok sooo... according to your logic, basically at every public auction, the richest guy there always wins every bid, right?

#fail

Maybe he just doesn't know how to bid AND win. What's the point in talking about how a guy has a war chest of money and may win a purse bid when he has a history of losing purse bids.

Are you suggesting that he will intentionally over bid? Are you suggesting that he only lost previous bids because Matchroom doesn't have the money.

What's your point?

[kafkod]

Ok this is how purse bid works Al would only have to cover Fury purse 40% so they could bid $50M and would only have to claw back $20M
A 3rd party would have to cover the entire $50M and Warren would have to cover $30M

I don't know what you're on about here. The winning promoter has to pay both fighter's purses. He gets part of what he pays his own man back as commission, but he still has to pay them both. And if he pays them more than the fight is worth, he loses money.

[Eff Pandas]

Bob has offered PBC fighters more money than most they've ever made.

Examples? I guess Khan is one, but idk what this has to do with wtf I'm talking about. This isn't a Bob vs PBC thing. Its potentially a Haymon & Warren vs Hearn thing in the extremely unlikely event this goes to a purse bid.

And cmon man everyone knows Bob is an old old school bean counter promoter. It is what it is.

[that g]

Maybe he just doesn't know how to bid AND win. What's the point in talking about how a guy has a war chest of money and may win a purse bid when he has a history of losing purse bids.

Are you suggesting that he will intentionally over bid? Are you suggesting that he only lost previous bids because Matchroom doesn't have the money.

What's your point?

simple: the fact that he doesn't win every purse bid he participates in doesn't mean he doesn't have the money to win every one he participates in.

a history of lost purse bids is not an indicator of future performance in purse bids. sometimes losing a purse bid can be a chess move.

[Eff Pandas]

Hearn says he's ready to bid "a fckin fortune" for it and Haymon lost the only purse bid he ever entered for a Wilder fight.

Hearn, backed by DAZN money, would steam roll Haymon and Warren for this fight. That's the reason why neither will allow it to go to a bid.

Eddie says a lot of stuff.

Eddie can't even get a A squad ON DAZN to start with with all his DAZN money.

But nah it won't go to purse bid cuz neither side is gonna wanna deal with a potential randon 3rd party. It'd be the same for a Joshua big fight if a purse bid was looming. Hearn nor Joshua's team would wanna put in a 3rd parties hands. F#cks up the back end money & just is kinda a hassle.

[kafkod]

How many has he actually lost? Please share because sounds like your being a bit dis-proportionate. He does deals with most promoters without the need to go to purse bid.

Didn't he just lose Warrington IBF bid? From what I remember recently he lost his bid on Hooker and Dillian Whyte I honestly don't remember him winning a called purse bid

Hearn wasn't expecting to win the Warrington/Galahad bid, because it's worth more to Warren than it is to him.

As I said to you in another post, Hearn did beat Pulev's promoter, which he thought would get him the fight, but lost out to a surprise bid from another promoter he didn't know would be taking part.

[kafkod]

Eddie says a lot of stuff.

Eddie can't even get a A squad ON DAZN to start with with all his DAZN money.

But nah it won't go to purse bid cuz neither side is gonna wanna deal with a potential randon 3rd party. It'd be the same for a Joshua big fight if a purse bid was looming. Hearn nor Joshua's team would wanna put in a 3rd parties hands. F#cks up the back end money & just is kinda a hassle.

AJ, Miller, Whyte, Usyk, Bivol, Callum Smith, Jacobs, Andrade, probably GGG, and he's only been operating in the States for 5 minutes.

[P4P Forever]

I did some quick research the card Grossed approx. $24M in PPV buys, not sure about the live gate. Guessing 15M
the pay outs don't include PPV % or other income related to the fight. Just the guarantee. Pac vs Broner similar PPV #s. I believe they can reach tho's # again probably higher this time. So not sure where your getting $50 M in purses???

payouts for the PPV card, which starts at 9 PM ET:
Deontay Wilder (40-0Here are the , 39 KOs) $4,000,000
Tyson Fury (27-0, 19 KOs) $3,000,000
Jarrett Hurd (22-0, 15 KOs) $1,000,000
Jason Welborn (24-6, 7 KOs) $30,000
Luis Ortiz (29-1-1 NC, 25 KOs) $375,000
Travis Kauffman (32-2, 23 KOs) $125,000
Joe Joyce (6-0, 6 KOs) $40,000
Joe Hanks (23-2, 15 KOs)

[P4P Forever]

No, this is a hard fight to sell on pursue bid. PPV of a rematch of a great heavyweight fight should be easy to sell, but the problem is both guys want big time guaranteed money.

According to the numbers (300,000 buys at $50 a buy) the fight grossed over 150 million. Who has the money to back that up?

Both guys probably want 50 mill each in the bank before they step into the ring. The promoter who wins the bid will have to put up a lot of money to cover the guarantees and the promotional costs.

I did some quick research the card Grossed approx. $24M in PPV buys, not sure about the live gate. Guessing $15M
The pay outs don't include PPV % or other income related to the fight. Just the guarantee.
Pac vs Broner similar PPV #s. I believe they can reach tho's # again probably higher this time. So not sure where your getting $50 M in purses each???

Payouts for the PPV card, which starts at 9 PM ET:
Deontay Wilder (40-0Here are the,39 KOs) $4,000,000
Tyson Fury (27-0, 19 KOs) $3,000,000
Jarrett Hurd (22-0, 15 KOs) $1,000,000
Jason Welborn (24-6, 7 KOs) $30,000
Luis Ortiz (29-1-1 NC, 25 KOs) $375,000
Travis Kauffman (32-2, 23 KOs) $125,000
Joe Joyce (6-0, 6 KOs) $40,000
Joe Hanks (23-2, 15 KOs)