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Originally posted by that g View PostAJ remains the best in the division
AJ remains the fighter with the best resume.
AJ remains the most popular heavyweight. not even close.
AJ remains ranked number 1 by all ranking systems that matter.
AJ remains the only one who has consistently "beaten the best of the best, and looking good doing it".
tell me again how wilder or fury have done any of these things you're demanding from AJ?
and by the way, you can claim all you want that holding and defending 3 belts and no 1 ranking mean nothing for popularity or legacy, even though that just means you are full of cow poopoo, but at the end of the day, AJ has the 3 belts AND the popularity AND the legacy by what he has accomplished so far in his career. all those things don't suddenly disappear because a few other fighters decided to not fight AJ.
at the end of the day, you are just a shill for the anti hearn/anti AJ narrative. carry on.
Right now, Joshua is UK popular and needs a win over Wilder or Fury to be the true global king of the division. No amount of local or British celebration if his accomplishments will change that. He hasn't fought enough or boxed well enough to get that level of recognition. Take Usyk as an example. He fought in the tourney and looked great doing it, as such even though he has a small amount of fights he is considered globally as king of cruiserweight.
The problem is some of you think that because someone says Joshua isn't the undisputed best at heavy that means someone else is. No..they all must fight each other for that consideration. There is no additional expectation for Joshua. It's just others around the globe aren't eager to hand him the label like some fans are due to nationalistic pride
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Originally posted by Ake-Dawg View PostNot sure if you are an alt or a newb. Please recognize that casuals don't care about belts. Otherwise guys like Terrence Crawford would have more popularity. Fury has global popularity...no belts though.
Right now, Joshua is UK popular and needs a win over Wilder or Fury to be the true global king of the division. No amount of local or British celebration if his accomplishments will change that. He hasn't fought enough or boxed well enough to get that level of recognition. Take Usyk as an example. He fought in the tourney and looked great doing it, as such even though he has a small amount of fights he is considered globally as king of cruiserweight.
The problem is some of you think that because someone says Joshua isn't the undisputed best at heavy that means someone else is. No..they all must fight each other for that consideration. There is no additional expectation for Joshua. It's just others around the globe aren't eager to hand him the label like some fans are due to nationalistic pride
the very reason terrence crawford has every bit of popularity he has right now as a pound for pound top is precisely because of the belts he has won at the levels he has won them! fury is popular because he never lost his belts in a ring, and he is at least a champion of some sort, even if he is paper champ by definition. in any case, nothing you wrote disproves anything i said, or answers anything about why or how either fury or wilder has surpassed AJ in any way.
come on man... what happened to you? when i joined this forum you were at least trying be neutral. i used to enjoy debating with you because you at least came with some valid and fair points.
now you're just like every other shill on this site. you're not even pretending to be even a bit willing to recognize facts and realities anymore. its like wbc wba ibfraud took over your account.
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Whyte should be smart here, take the money and more importantly the options this fight brings. All the belts and the biggest draw.
If the Miller fight happens, it's nothing but trash.
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Whytes argument makes no sense. He had absolutely zero leverage and priced himself out. Yeah, Joshua would rather fight someone else since he already knocked Whyte out.
I may not agree with Wilders approach to AJ fight, but at least he has some power in the negotiations. He's undefeated title holder. Whyte has nothing on his side. I wouldn't even offer him gbp5m.
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Originally posted by Bronx2245 View PostChamps' reputations can be dampened when you're not fighting the best competition! Ask Terence Crawford! Ask GGG! Who had more belts, GGG or Canelo? Wilder vs. Fury was sold on Fury! It was Fury who beat Wlad, and vacated his title, and then came back! That was the storyline! Lastly, employees don't hire people, only employers! You would know that, if you weren't unemployed!
Meant employer, it was a typo, grammar police...and I do have a good job so your opinion well remains yours so I don’t give a Fork!
AJ has already made his name in Europe and some parts of the world as the number 1 king of the division and has stepped up, beaten quality, top fighters to be where he is so you comparing him to GGG and Crawford is kinda dumb...unlike Wilder who has fought bums all this life even the Fury fight was a cherry picked fight, they all thought Fury was well shot when he stunk out the place fighting Seferi
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Originally posted by Bonduu View Postu
Meant employer, it was a typo, grammar police...and I do have a good job so your opinion well remains yours so I don’t give a Fork!
AJ has already made his name in Europe and some parts of the world as the number 1 king of the division and has stepped up, beaten quality, top fighters to be where he is so you comparing him to GGG and Crawford is kinda dumb...unlike Wilder who has fought bums all this life even the Fury fight was a cherry picked fight, they all thought Fury was well shot when he stunk out the place fighting Seferi
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I reckon people think Hearn has handled the AJ sweepstakes way to arrogantly and now it comes back to haunt him.
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