Comments Thread For: Bob Arum: Al Haymon is Doing a Disservice to His Welterweights

[Curt Henning]

bob will never stop being super upset that haymon took Floyd and made him a megastar

ole bob doesn't like watching blacks and Mexicans prosper without him there to tax them...he likes when they work for him...Al changed all that

al is about to put two top 10 unbeaten p4p guys in a WW fight......hes got Thurman coming back and about to re-enter the picture....al has already pit broner in a bunch of good fights......hes put danny in with Thurman and porter....hes put Thurman in with porter and danny...porter in with broner danny and Thurman

wtf are these guys talking about? hes put a bunch of guys up against each other and hes not done yet...there are more fights to make! wtf...just a bunch of haters in denial of facts...whats right in front of their faces....als made fights at WW and hes not done

some of you act as if spence should fight Thurman, porter and Crawford in one year and if he doesn't they are letting boxing down LOLOL

[factsarenice]

A little context.

January 18, 2019:

“I always been an Amir Khan fan and I thought it would be a tremendous test for Crawford,” Arum told BoxingScene. “I was not very successful in closing the deal. Billy Keane spent two weeks with Amir Khan. We negotiated everything with Billy and got the deal done.”

July 16, 2016:

There is a lot of chatter about Manny Pacquiao fighting in October, but don’t expect that fight to go to Amir Khan.

The Telegraph spoke with Pac-Man’s promoter Bob Arum about potential opponents for Manny. When asked if Khan was a possibility, Arum dismissed the British fighter in harsh terms.

“Amir Khan means absolutely nothing in the United States,” Arum told Telegraph Sport. “He brought over no people for the Canelo fight. He saved the Brits a lot of agony.

“He is not a draw on PPV in England. He is looked upon on both sides of the pond as yesterday’s news, and yet he refuses to recognize that and feels that his value is very, very high, which it is not.”

https://larrybrownsports.com/boxing/...ir-khan/313087

Same 'Ol Bob!

All part of the negotiating split and Khan kept asking for massive money. He got it vs Canelo and again vs Crawford and hope to cash out vs Brook who is not a super draw in the UK either.

[factsarenice]

bob will never stop being super upset that haymon took Floyd and made him a megastar

ole bob doesn't like watching blacks and Mexicans prosper without him there to tax them...he likes when they work for him...Al changed all that

al is about to put two top 10 unbeaten p4p guys in a WW fight......hes got Thurman coming back and about to re-enter the picture....al has already pit broner in a bunch of good fights......hes put danny in with Thurman and porter....hes put Thurman in with porter and danny...porter in with broner danny and Thurman

wtf are these guys talking about? hes put a bunch of guys up against each other and hes not done yet...there are more fights to make! wtf...just a bunch of haters in denial of facts...whats right in front of their faces....als made fights at WW and hes not done

some of you act as if spence should fight Thurman, porter and Crawford in one year and if he doesn't they are letting boxing down LOLOL

No offense but Bob made Floyd a star, that's just a fact, just like he made Oscar and Manny a star. In the end, Floyd did his own promotions and FLOYD made Floyd a superstar, not Al. Al Haymon had zero do do with it. Haymon hasn't promoted anyone into a superstar status, he's not a promoter, never was.

Im sorry but just need to keep this honest because others will jump on this and that's when things get crazy.

Admittedly Haymon has done some good for fighters, namely tapping a hedge fund and bleeding off money for his fighters but he never made anyone a super star, he can't promote squat. If there is animosity between promoters and Al it's because Haymon stole every fighter from the original promoter that built the fighters brand. That's just a fact.

It should also be pointed out that Haymon is no saving angle either. Haymon is sacrificing Spence just to keep him from fighting anyone not PBC and will eventually force Spence to move up. We'll never know what he could have been and not because the fights aren't there but more so because Haymon refuses to allow Spence access to his cash cow heard of PBC WW's. If Haymon continues the way he is going we'll see 147-154 stagnate into repeat fights that nobody cares about and Charlo fighting the Willy Monroes for the next 5 years.

[davef]

January 18, 2019:

“I always been an Amir Khan fan and I thought it would be a tremendous test for Crawford,” Arum told BoxingScene. “I was not very successful in closing the deal. Billy Keane spent two weeks with Amir Khan. We negotiated everything with Billy and got the deal done.”

July 16, 2016:

There is a lot of chatter about Manny Pacquiao fighting in October, but don’t expect that fight to go to Amir Khan.

The Telegraph spoke with Pac-Man’s promoter Bob Arum about potential opponents for Manny. When asked if Khan was a possibility, Arum dismissed the British fighter in harsh terms.

“Amir Khan means absolutely nothing in the United States,” Arum told Telegraph Sport. “He brought over no people for the Canelo fight. He saved the Brits a lot of agony.

“He is not a draw on PPV in England. He is looked upon on both sides of the pond as yesterday’s news, and yet he refuses to recognize that and feels that his value is very, very high, which it is not.”

https://larrybrownsports.com/boxing/...ir-khan/313087

Same 'Ol Bob!

good post the bob father up to his old lies again

[Curt Henning]

No offense but Bob made Floyd a star, that's just a fact, just like he made Oscar and Manny a star. In the end, Floyd did his own promotions and FLOYD made Floyd a superstar, not Al, Haymon had zero do do with it. Haymon hasn't promoted anyone into a superstar status, he's not a promoter, never was.

hahahahahah....wow...u really couldn't be more clueless

literally everyone knows floyds status skyrocketed once he bought out his TR contract for like 700k...haymon took over guiding his career dummy

like literally everyone gives haymon credit for making Floyd into a superstar yet you are denial...why do u think guys sign to work with al?

I'm aware of haymons status...hes not an actual promoter...but hes a de facto promoter

bob arum let Floyd go over about 6 million bucks...that and his refusal to try to make the Oscar fight...once Floyd was out of TR al took the wheels and he got him the Oscar fight and launched Floyd.....you are so far out of your depth here and out of reality

[Curt Henning]

Considering Haymon's welters are lucky if they earn $2M per fight, I'd say Arum isn't wrong. Porter/Garcia their combined purse was $3M and change. These guys should be marquee fighters earning 8-digits by now when you consider all of the talent he has hoarded at 147 for all these years.

are you really that out of the loop or are you just pretending?

its common knowledge by now that haymons top guys make more than their listed purses...its been confirmed by many sources including actual fighters of his.....their listed purses aren't all they take home per fight......that's why all his guys stay with him when guys like hearn are trying to pry them away

hearn was out here thinking he knew what haymons guys made and offered them more and they all said "we good" and didn't even budge....als guys are taken care of just as good as Crawford

heres bob arum

"were working on Crawford vs collazzo(a haymon guy"

"if I wanna make a fight with spence or Garcia I don't even know who to talk to...is al haymon even a real person? I think hes a ghost"

gee bob...I dunno...how did you get ahold of Collazo?

[Oldskoolg]

Considering Haymon's welters are lucky if they earn $2M per fight, I'd say Arum isn't wrong. Porter/Garcia their combined purse was $3M and change. These guys should be marquee fighters earning 8-digits by now when you consider all of the talent he has hoarded at 147 for all these years.

You’re being misleading....how you may ask? Because you know full well that was a card pitnon during the time buy era of PBC rather than the new contract with Showtime or thenone with FOX. And frankly, as a fan, why are you concerned what the fighters make as long as you get to see them fight? It’s not your account the fight purse is being routed to....it’s not in escrow for you.

[GodOfBoxing]

They ALL are doing a disservice to Boxing. Anyone who even associates w/IBO at world level/men's league.....anyone who even associates with the FROM HELL "duel tri". WAKE UP ALL PEOPLE. IT IS THE overgoverance AND idiot governance that blanks the SPORT in the Public/*crossover department.

[Curt Henning]

No offense but Bob made Floyd a star, that's just a fact, just like he made Oscar and Manny a star. In the end, Floyd did his own promotions and FLOYD made Floyd a superstar, not Al. Al Haymon had zero do do with it. Haymon hasn't promoted anyone into a superstar status, he's not a promoter, never was.

Im sorry but just need to keep this honest because others will jump on this and that's when things get crazy.

Admittedly Haymon has done some good for fighters, namely tapping a hedge fund and bleeding off money for his fighters but he never made anyone a super star, he can't promote squat. If there is animosity between promoters and Al it's because Haymon stole every fighter from the original promoter that built the fighters brand. That's just a fact.

It should also be pointed out that Haymon is no saving angle either. Haymon is sacrificing Spence just to keep him from fighting anyone not PBC and will eventually force Spence to move up. We'll never know what he could have been and not because the fights aren't there but more so because Haymon refuses to allow Spence access to his cash cow heard of PBC WW's. If Haymon continues the way he is going we'll see 147-154 stagnate into repeat fights that nobody cares about and Charlo fighting the Willy Monroes for the next 5 years.

lol..u couldn't be more dumb

ur another one of those guys that runs around spewing the false narrative that al doesn't put his guys in fights against each other

yet Thurman, porter and danny have all fought each other already!!!....and spence is about to make a fight with another top 10 unbeaten p4p guy...and Thurman is just coming back and about to re-enter the mix

he just took wilder from where wilder is...to looking at almost a 50 percent share against AJ.....wilder/fury was a big success and people are clamoring for a rematch....and eddie hearn said it would never happen...lol

yeah al cant do squat...that's why he has the biggest and most talented roster in the sport...I guess guys just wanna work with him cause ...cause....well...cause....geez I dunno must be luck of the irish only haymon aint irish

you are so far out of touch with reality

must be another one of those guys so bitter about what Floyd did to the game that you hate anyone associated with him lol

you were probably running around here a year ago talking about al was bankrupting people and hed be gone soon and wasting money and he'd never get another TV deal....yet here al is with the most talented crop in boxing and a fresh new tv deal LOL

[factsarenice]

hahahahahah....wow...u really couldn't be more clueless

literally everyone knows floyds status skyrocketed once he bought out his TR contract for like 700k...haymon took over guiding his career dummy

like literally everyone gives haymon credit for making Floyd into a superstar yet you are denial...why do u think guys sign to work with al?

I'm aware of haymons status...hes not an actual promoter...but hes a de facto promoter

bob arum let Floyd go over about 6 million bucks...that and his refusal to try to make the Oscar fight...once Floyd was out of TR al took the wheels and he got him the Oscar fight and launched Floyd.....you are so far out of your depth here and out of reality

The very first line tells me you have no argument but I'll play along.

Al Haymon did not make Floyd a super star......FLOYD MADE FLOYD A SUPERSTAR. Al Haymon promoted NOBODY...Al does not promote, never did. As a mater of fact it's against the law. That's not opinion it's fact...I don't know how much clearer I can make it.