Comments Thread For: Bob Arum: Al Haymon is Doing a Disservice to His Welterweights

[Curt Henning]

I think what hes trying to get at is TR knows how to build up a fighter's profile..from prospect to contender to Champion. IMO no one has done it better..GBP is very great as well.

But once they reach a point in their career he holds them back just like Crawford now. He held pac back from some dam good fights. They reach that point I say they should split from TR and pursue more options, options that Bob can't or wont deliver.

i agree that TR does a good job at building guys...i cant argue that....but he says al isnt building his WW's....and those guys are making good money...hes looking at their listed purses and thinking crawford is making much more...its common knowledge al cuts get his guys other checks...not just the listed purse...its been confirmed by fighters

[Curt Henning]

So you bought into the hype from that WBA WBO IBF poster that PBC fighters are earning much more than advertised? Sorry, but the PBC clan are notorious for bragging and posting everything they have on social media, don't think for one minute that they wouldn't be boasting about all the millions they earned to fight B-level opponents.

Although Mikey has aligned himself with PBC, he claims he writes his own ticket, so how does one get a fight with Mikey? Reaching out to Uncle Al, or Roberto, or Mikey's water bucket carrier?

Fact is, both Danny Garcia and Broner each turned down career high paydays to fight Pac, and Danny turned down a career high payday plus a percentage of PPV to fight Crawford.



I'm merely pointing out how some of these PBC fighters are turning down career high paydays from other Promoters, while still earning half as much with Haymon. Outside of some folks here who claim to have inside knowledge that they earn more than advertised, I can't see the logic in turning down anywhere between 2x and 8x your career high pay day.

its not hype...its been confirmed

and eddie thought he could waltz in and get them more money and steal haymons guys...cause he knew their listed purses....and they all told him to piss off because they are taken care of beyond that...otherwise they would have jumped at a chance

mikey "writing his own ticket" is part of what gets him paid beyond just his purse

some of you are so blinded by al hate that you literally think no one likes him and hes terrible for boxing

his fighters, at least his top level guys, love him and they are happy...you are out here telling me hes selling his guys short...yet none of them complain.....who should i trust...you or them?

[Curt Henning]

“Al puts his fighters first,” says Paulie Malignaggi. “No one puts the fighters first like Al. I don’t know a single fighter who’s unhappy with Al. I know I have no complaints with the way Al has treated me.”

“Al puts his fighters first,” says Paulie Malignaggi. “No one puts the fighters first like Al. I don’t know a single fighter who’s unhappy with Al. I know I have no complaints with the way Al has treated me.”

“Everything that Al promised to me, he delivered,” Floyd Mayweather said last year.


from Ring mag article march 2018

For example; Keith Thurman’s purse as reported to the Florida State Athletic Commission in conjunction with his July 11, 2015, PBC fight against Luis Collazo was $1.5 million. But Thurman told Dan Rafael of ESPN.com that Haymon gave him a check for an additional $1.2 million.

The purses filed with the New Jersey State Athletic Control Board for the Aug. 15, 2015, PBC fight between Antonio Tarver and Steve Cunningham were listed as $250,000 for each fighter. But Tarver is said to have received a total of $500,000. And a source close to Cunningham says that the fighter was paid an additional $100,000 as an advance.

[Curt Henning]

So you bought into the hype from that WBA WBO IBF poster that PBC fighters are earning much more than advertised? Sorry, but the PBC clan are notorious for bragging and posting everything they have on social media, don't think for one minute that they wouldn't be boasting about all the millions they earned to fight B-level opponents.

Although Mikey has aligned himself with PBC, he claims he writes his own ticket, so how does one get a fight with Mikey? Reaching out to Uncle Al, or Roberto, or Mikey's water bucket carrier?

Fact is, both Danny Garcia and Broner each turned down career high paydays to fight Pac, and Danny turned down a career high payday plus a percentage of PPV to fight Crawford.



I'm merely pointing out how some of these PBC fighters are turning down career high paydays from other Promoters, while still earning half as much with Haymon. Outside of some folks here who claim to have inside knowledge that they earn more than advertised, I can't see the logic in turning down anywhere between 2x and 8x your career high pay day.

For example; Keith Thurman’s purse as reported to the Florida State Athletic Commission in conjunction with his July 11, 2015, PBC fight against Luis Collazo was $1.5 million. But Thurman told Dan Rafael of ESPN.com that Haymon gave him a check for an additional $1.2 million.

The purses filed with the New Jersey State Athletic Control Board for the Aug. 15, 2015, PBC fight between Antonio Tarver and Steve Cunningham were listed as $250,000 for each fighter. But Tarver is said to have received a total of $500,000. And a source close to Cunningham says that the fighter was paid an additional $100,000 as an advance.

[mrjoeblive]

Mr. in-house has some nerve, you only want to work with other promoters because all your fighters have left you and your stable is weak, GET LOST!!!

You have posted my thoughts on this matter. Arum is a back, side and front stabber. Mr yesterday I was lying but today I'm telling the truth. How can you trust a man like this?

[Curt Henning]

this is why guys in the biz hate on al

“Haymon is screwing up the marketplace,” Pat English (the attorney for Main Events) says. “That’s for sure.”

[Drew Bundini Br]

Bob is straight up hating on HAYMON as usual. He wished he had the talent for himself.

[SkillspayBills]

Bob Arum is one of the worst hypocrites in the history of the sport. You can't call a man a cancer and then expect to make fights with him. He sounds like a begging *****. **** him and everything he is about.

[Bronx2245]

Ok so you lied yesterday, but today?
I have no idea what that means, what did you lie about?

We're on the same page...right? You know that's a famous quote from Bob Arum...right?

[Lazy Jab]

i agree that TR does a good job at building guys...i cant argue that....but he says al isnt building his WW's....and those guys are making good money...hes looking at their listed purses and thinking crawford is making much more...its common knowledge al cuts get his guys other checks...not just the listed purse...its been confirmed by fighters

Oh most definitely! They get their purses and Al cuts them in on other revenue streams..that's how I see it and I believe most of his stable is financially satisfied. I can agree with Bob though on not growing his WWs, because most of them were groomed or already established and built up by GBP. I think PBC match making slowed down alot the fighters momentum. But the in house comments are ridiculous because he did the same dam thing lol he did this to himself, its affecting his fighters and limits What's Available to them.

I think Crawford should leave TR to pursue more options rather than be limited, he should have more options available to him in opposition.