Comments Thread For: Bob Arum: Al Haymon is Doing a Disservice to His Welterweights

[rudy]

You do realize Haymon gives us more mismatches than anyone right? But that's ok because as long as it's not Arum doing it right? Do you want to see Bud against Spence, Thurman, Porter, Garcia, etc. or are you ok with Thurman, Danny, & Porter playing round robin while Spence continue fighting nobodies & guys two weight classes smaller than him?

This show how dumb you I doubt that very much, Haymon not even been 10 years in the business arum as over 45 years and has sold us some good and bad fights.

The question is this how many fighters Arum has allowed to fight on PBC show ? NONE

How many as Haymon put on Arum show (he has done not sure how many but )

Arum is just a miserable old ***ish promoter who hates change i am sure he thinks black should be ****** he likes Mexicans more because more of them will buy tickets with drug money

[Pennsauken1]

No offense but Bob made Floyd a star, that's just a fact, just like he made Oscar and Manny a star. In the end, Floyd did his own promotions and FLOYD made Floyd a superstar, not Al. Al Haymon had zero do do with it. Haymon hasn't promoted anyone into a superstar status, he's not a promoter, never was.

Im sorry but just need to keep this honest because others will jump on this and that's when things get crazy.

Admittedly Haymon has done some good for fighters, namely tapping a hedge fund and bleeding off money for his fighters but he never made anyone a super star, he can't promote squat. If there is animosity between promoters and Al it's because Haymon stole every fighter from the original promoter that built the fighters brand. That's just a fact.

It should also be pointed out that Haymon is no saving angle either. Haymon is sacrificing Spence just to keep him from fighting anyone not PBC and will eventually force Spence to move up. We'll never know what he could have been and not because the fights aren't there but more so because Haymon refuses to allow Spence access to his cash cow heard of PBC WW's. If Haymon continues the way he is going we'll see 147-154 stagnate into repeat fights that nobody cares about and Charlo fighting the Willy Monroes for the next 5 years.

Quit the hating with you foolish post

[Bronx2245]

A little context.


All part of the negotiating split and Khan kept asking for massive money. He got it vs Canelo and again vs Crawford and hope to cash out vs Brook who is not a super draw in the UK either.

"I was lying yesterday, but today..."

[Ray*]

I think pretty soon they would have to make everyone at 147 fight each other, and am talking about the other guys on the other street. Thurman is only just coming back, Porter was chasing his rematch for a while, and spence just came onto the scene with his belt after the Brook fight. at 147 Thurman/Garcia/Porter has already happen, so i have no doubt that those belt would be in one boxers hands by mid 2020.

[factsarenice]

lol..u couldn't be more dumb

ur another one of those guys that runs around spewing the false narrative that al doesn't put his guys in fights against each other

yet Thurman, porter and danny have all fought each other already!!!....and spence is about to make a fight with another top 10 unbeaten p4p guy...and Thurman is just coming back and about to re-enter the mix

he just took wilder from where wilder is...to looking at almost a 50 percent share against AJ.....wilder/fury was a big success and people are clamoring for a rematch....and eddie hearn said it would never happen...lol

yeah al cant do squat...that's why he has the biggest and most talented roster in the sport...I guess guys just wanna work with him cause ...cause....well...cause....geez I dunno must be luck of the irish only haymon aint irish

you are so far out of touch with reality

must be another one of those guys so bitter about what Floyd did to the game that you hate anyone associated with him lol

you were probably running around here a year ago talking about al was bankrupting people and hed be gone soon and wasting money and he'd never get another TV deal....yet here al is with the most talented crop in boxing and a fresh new tv deal LOL

For the record, the moment a person defaults into name calling, labeling and insult it's usually because that person has no argument or lacks the logic to defend a point of view. It's indicative of a person that's following something they heard but don't really understand the complexities of a position or upon what basis they hold that position. It's lazy and in the end they simply don't have a logical argument to defend their position. Another sign of weakness is lying to make yourself seem right. If a person lies to win it's because winning is more important than the truth and for that reason they never learn or grow. Personally I try to be open to all points of view and appreciate disagreement and argument based upon logic because it makes me better. As for the cheap Trump technique....it's transparent to anyone past the age of 12. Specific tribes may like it but it does nothing to advance the conversation.

[factsarenice]

"I was lying yesterday, but today..."

Ok so you lied yesterday, but today?
I have no idea what that means, what did you lie about?

[factsarenice]

Quit the hating with you foolish post

One line of name calling, how original.

I don't bother answering junk like that. If you have a point make it and make sense of it.

NEXT!

[Eff Pandas]

January 18, 2019:

“I always been an Amir Khan fan and I thought it would be a tremendous test for Crawford,” Arum told BoxingScene. “I was not very successful in closing the deal. Billy Keane spent two weeks with Amir Khan. We negotiated everything with Billy and got the deal done.”

July 16, 2016:

There is a lot of chatter about Manny Pacquiao fighting in October, but don’t expect that fight to go to Amir Khan.

The Telegraph spoke with Pac-Man’s promoter Bob Arum about potential opponents for Manny. When asked if Khan was a possibility, Arum dismissed the British fighter in harsh terms.

“Amir Khan means absolutely nothing in the United States,” Arum told Telegraph Sport. “He brought over no people for the Canelo fight. He saved the Brits a lot of agony.

“He is not a draw on PPV in England. He is looked upon on both sides of the pond as yesterday’s news, and yet he refuses to recognize that and feels that his value is very, very high, which it is not.”

https://larrybrownsports.com/boxing/bob-arum-amir-khan/313087

Same 'Ol Bob!

Nice callback.

The more things change, the more Arum was lying to us yesterday.

[Nusky]

Bob is out here looking really desperate. He's getting a taste of his own medicine and he obviously doesn't like.

Karmas a cold blooded b----.

[Lazy Jab]

hahahahahah....wow...u really couldn't be more clueless

literally everyone knows floyds status skyrocketed once he bought out his TR contract for like 700k...haymon took over guiding his career dummy

like literally everyone gives haymon credit for making Floyd into a superstar yet you are denial...why do u think guys sign to work with al?

I'm aware of haymons status...hes not an actual promoter...but hes a de facto promoter

bob arum let Floyd go over about 6 million bucks...that and his refusal to try to make the Oscar fight...once Floyd was out of TR al took the wheels and he got him the Oscar fight and launched Floyd.....you are so far out of your depth here and out of reality

I think what hes trying to get at is TR knows how to build up a fighter's profile..from prospect to contender to Champion. IMO no one has done it better..GBP is very great as well.

But once they reach a point in their career he holds them back just like Crawford now. He held pac back from some dam good fights. They reach that point I say they should split from TR and pursue more options, options that Bob can't or wont deliver.