Golovkin doesnt want 3rd Canelo fight??

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  • TonyGe
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    #61
    Originally posted by Bjl12
    I quoted one of your friends who said Gennady is 2-0 against Canelo. In reality Gennady is 0-1-1 against Canelo

    In reality Canelo is the face of boxing and Gennady is an afterthought...becoming less and less relevant each day due to his age and underperformance at the big stage.

    The objective evidence - photos and videos - show Canelo was not beat up in 1st fight or 2nd fight, but Gennady looked bad especially after the 2nd fight. That's reality

    Do you understand?
    I understand perfectly..
    You said.. Golovkin..
    picked the ref, False

    chose Canelo's diet, False

    and everything in between. Not true

    You also said Breadman is a racist. Again another false statement.

    What I understand is that your given to wild statements that are simply not true.

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    • DARKSEID
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      #62
      Golovkin- one of the most over-hyped fighters of all time, who didn't even really beat anybody.

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      • lparm
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        #63
        Originally posted by Bjl12
        Why would Gennady deserve more? GGG/Abel/Loeffler talked more trash than Conor McGregor or Floyd Mayweather...picked the judges, picked the ref, chose Canelo's diet, and everything in between.

        Gennady lost straight up. Straight up.



        Gennady fights anybody else and he loses out on millions









        Trump supporting white supremacists like Stephen WhiteBreadman and the rest the bloggers...



        Yep.

        /thread
        Wtf?

        Trump who lad

        I am a Canelo guy and G doesn’t deserve that sweet cash

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        • original zero
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          #64
          Thread title should be changed to: GGG signing with PBC, Gomez butthurt.

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          • Bjl12
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            #65
            Originally posted by Bjl12
            Why would Gennady deserve more? GGG/Abel/Loeffler talked more trash than Conor McGregor or Floyd Mayweather...picked the judges, picked the ref, chose Canelo's diet, and everything in between.

            Gennady lost straight up. Straight up.

            Gennady fights anybody else and he loses out on millions



            Trump supporting white supremacists like Stephen WhiteBreadman and the rest the bloggers...

            Yep.

            /thread
            Originally posted by TonyGe
            Scratching my head over this post and trying to find something, anything rooted in reality but as usual.... nothing..
            Originally posted by Bjl12
            I quoted one of your friends who said Gennady is 2-0 against Canelo. In reality Gennady is 0-1-1 against Canelo

            In reality Canelo is the face of boxing and Gennady is an afterthought...becoming less and less relevant each day due to his age and underperformance at the big stage.

            The objective evidence - photos and videos - show Canelo was not beat up in 1st fight or 2nd fight, but Gennady looked bad especially after the 2nd fight. That's reality

            Do you understand?
            Originally posted by TonyGe
            I understand perfectly..
            You said.. Golovkin..
            picked the ref, False

            chose Canelo's diet, False

            and everything in between. Not true

            You also said Breadman is a racist. Again another false statement.

            What I understand is that your given to wild statements that are simply not true.
            Gennady/Abel picked the ref:
            • As for the referee, Kenny Bayless was unavailable to once again be the third man in the ring, so that assignment belongs to New York/New Jersey-based Benjy Esteves, who’ll be reffing both men for the first time in his career.

              It wasn’t an entirely smooth-sailing selection process, of course. When the commission replaced Bayless with Tony Weeks, Golovkin’s camp objected, citing a recent fight involving Denis Shafikov, whom Golovkin’s coach Abel Sanchez also trains.

              https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2018/8/2...ch-boxing-news


            Abel/Loeffler told Canelo what food to eat/avoid



            Abel/GGG whining about Canelo's handwraps and gloves...which were approved by NSAC.
            • “Here in Nevada they seem to accept stacking, which everybody in the boxing business knows it’s illegal way of wrapping hands...but because Nevada allows it and the rules are very vague, there’s not more I can say about not accepting that. But I will say, though, there is rules in their bylaws that says that you’re allowed to use a maximum of 12 feet of 2-inch tape, which in turn would be say 24 [feet] of 1-inch tape.

              “If you look at the video where I protested, they used the whole roll on the first layer — which is 30 feet. And they used another roll on the top layer which is another 30 feet! So, to me, that’s more close to 50-60 feet. I am questioning that and Tom [Loeffler] and I have had discussions about that with Mr. Bennett. I want those rules followed. We’re gonna follow ‘em — we’re gonna follow the rules!

              “I want that talked about now! I don’t wanna wait until we’re in the dressing room. I don’t wanna disrupt their concentration. What I’d like to do is get it resolved now because it is 24 feet. It it’s vague it’s vague, I understand that, but if it’s in the rules then follow the rules, specifically.”

              https://www.badlefthook.com/2018/9/1...uspect-gloves/

            • "“Notice that they were gloves that had never been used in a championship fight,” Sanchez said to ESPN Deportes about Canelo’s new gloves that he wanted to wear. ”We did not feel it was fair to use them because they had not been tested. We do not know if they are going to break. Imagine that they break in the third round and then Canelo takes advantage to recover or take a break,” Sanchez said."

              https://www.************.com/2018/09...anelos-gloves/

            • "Saul Canelo Alvarez won’t be using the No Boxing No Life glove brand for the rematch with Gennady Golovkin. Those gloves were objected to by Golovkin’s trainer Abel Sanchez due to them never having been used in a world title fight.

              Canelo will instead be using the ‘Winning’ gloves that he wore for his previous fight with GGG last September, according to ESPN Deportes. Canelo didn’t win the fight, so it didn’t matter. Sanchez was not on board with Canelo using the ‘No Boxing No Life’ gloves for the rematch with GGG. Sanchez also isn’t happy about Canelo’s trainer’s method of wrapping his gloves, which he calls, ‘stacking.’"

              https://www.************.com/2018/09...ight-with-ggg/


            Abel and GGG even telling Canelo how to/how not to fight:
            • "I hope he's more aggressive," Sanchez said. "The fans deserve it so they can see a better fight.

              It's impossible to knock somebody out when they run. Don't run."

              "It was his fighting style earlier, not just in the September fight," GGG said. "He always has a way of running in the ring, but it was his style. However, what happened on our last fight, he was really avoiding fighting close to me. I think that's exactly what happened, but what he's trying to say right now, it just proves that he's not keeping his word.

              "He's trying to deceive people again, and being dishonest. But it doesn't matter what he said. Let him say whatever he wants."

              http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...ulling-punches


            I've literally proven everything I stated and even added more fun tidbits about diva Gennady.

            So I've used reality to explain why Canelo is 1-0-1 versus Gennady, is the A-side, how Abel/Tom/GGG whined and cried to Canelo and the media about EVERYTHING.

            And you turn around and say "it's not true".

            It's true, kid, it's true.

            Oh and I would get banned for pointing out, using sources and quotes, the glaring bias and prejudice toward contemporary Mexican fighters by "WonderWhite Breadman"
            Last edited by Bjl12; 01-14-2019, 03:59 AM.

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            • Bjl12
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              #66
              Originally posted by lparm
              Wtf?

              Trump who lad

              I am a Canelo guy and G doesn’t deserve that sweet cash
              People who say Gennady won "both" fights probably have something against Mexicans because no logical/objective fan could arrive at that conclusion if they're being honest.

              1st fight had a wider split - 7-5 Canelo to 8-4 GGG (depending on what you like)

              2nd fight was either 7-5 Canelo or 6-6. You can't give GGG 7 rounds, but 6 could be had (depending on what you like)

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              • Citizen Koba
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                #67
                Originally posted by Bjl12
                People who say Gennady won "both" fights probably have something against Mexicans because no logical/objective fan could arrive at that conclusion if they're being honest.

                1st fight had a wider split - 7-5 Canelo to 8-4 GGG (depending on what you like)

                2nd fight was either 7-5 Canelo or 6-6. You can't give GGG 7 rounds, but 6 could be had (depending on what you like)
                Ah. The old 'you're biased if you don't agree' card, huh? So. How you gonna go about proving you ain't biased yourself, man? You got a monopoly on truth?

                If you're God please accept my apologies and I beg you not to smite me down with a plague of something nasty, but otherwise claiming bias in those you don't agree with is a fallacious argument.

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                • BoxingIsGreat
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by DARKSEID
                  Golovkin- one of the most over-hyped fighters of all time, who didn't even really beat anybody.
                  Not true. He beat Lemieux, one of the best middleweights ever.

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                  • Bjl12
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Koba-Grozny
                    Ah. The old 'you're biased if you don't agree' card, huh? So. How you gonna go about proving you ain't biased yourself, man? You got a monopoly on truth?

                    If you're God please accept my apologies and I beg you not to smite me down with a plague of something nasty, but otherwise claiming bias in those you don't agree with is a fallacious argument.
                    Hah, naw.

                    I can't actually say what's acceptable other than cite sources. Every reasonable person judging either fight produced scores that I suggested.

                    1st fight: Canelo 7-5, 6-6, 5-7 GGG, 8-4 GGG
                    - A card different than these is highly suspect.

                    2nd fight: Canelo 7-5 or 6-6
                    - A card different from those is highly suspect as the fight was very close, but most rounds were clear. Which is why all 3 judges had it either 7-5 or 6-6.

                    I saw one blogger on BLH score the fight 6-4-2 for GGG. One of the funniest things I've read since "Wonder White BreadMan" last Mailbag. Dude hates MexiCHAMPS. Is lol AF
                    Last edited by Bjl12; 01-14-2019, 03:58 AM.

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                    • Bjl12
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by DARKSEID
                      Golovkin- one of the most over-hyped fighters of all time, who didn't even really beat anybody.
                      Golovkin beat Danny Jacobs who is arguably PFP#2 and Kell Brook who was basically a MW anyways and could argue Top 5 PFP.

                      Oh and he drew with Canelo in the 1st fight...a Top10 PFP fighter.

                      So that's a clear, dominating performance over PFP #2 Danny Jacobs, a clear, stoppage performance over #5 Kell Brook, a clear draw over Canelo a Top #10 PFP, and a win over #3 PFP David Lemiuex.

                      Gennady - Hall of Fame and ATG MW - Golovkin

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