Golovkin doesnt want 3rd Canelo fight??

[TonyGe]

5/6 judges saw all 24 rounds exactly the same. No free rounds....just difficult to score rounds. And Abel/GGG literally picked the judges for the 2nd fight.......



GGG looked like he did literally nothing different in the rematch. Abel said so leading up to fight...

• "All those same things were said prior to the first fight [about going for a knockout] and it ended up being a track meet. I think that on [Sept. 15] when [Golden Boy promoter] Oscar [De La Hoya] and Canelo are having breakfast, Oscar needs to remind him he needs to bring his courage to the venue that night because he's going to need it. If he intends to knock out Golovkin, he's going to have to fight him. And if he fights him, he's going to get knocked out. I said that before; he would have gotten knocked out the first time, but he decided to make it a track meet that night.
  
  "But if he comes to fight and if he comes to knock out Golovkin as he said he's going to -- if he doesn't defraud the fans again -- then he's going to get knocked out. I've said it and I'll say it again."
  
  Sanchez has continued on and on about Alvarez's style, though he has always been a counterpuncher at heart and not the straight brawler some make him out to be. But it hasn't stopped Sanchez.
  
  "I hope Canelo was able to see a transmission specialist for the rematch, because in the first fight he was stuck in reverse."
  Abel Sanchez on Canelo Alvarez's fighting style in his 2017 meeting with Gennady Golovkin
  "I hope he's more aggressive," Sanchez said. "The fans deserve it so they can see a better fight.
  
  It's impossible to knock somebody out when they run. Don't run."

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...ulling-punches

Rather than teach GGG to cut off the ring Abel and GGG begged Canelo to stand and trade. Canelo did just that and for majority of fight it was Gennady being stopped in his tracks. That's not an improved gameplan...that's just hoping your opponent doesnt improve.




A draw is a fair score. 2 judges had 115-113 and the other judge had it 114-114. Nothing biased about having it a draw.

The current judging system clearly doesnt work. I don't know the solution, but this particular fight (2nd fight) was not controversial. Case can be made on 1st fight or other similar fights, but these two are just evenly matched thoroughbreds...its competitive no matter when they fight. Neither guy is ATG good, but both aren't far from it.

You've never heard fighters and promoters claiming they are going to KO the other guy or that the other guy has no balls. It happens all the time. Able likes to talk and he does it a lot. He claimed at one point that Golovkin would be a bigger star than Ali. It's what happens in the ring that counts. Yeah Canelo did better in the rematch but he lost a close fight. As Russ Anber said, that talk (primarily by Sanchez) backfired with the judges. He had Golovkin winning by the way. I watched the first four rounds of the first fight again and the bias for Canelo by the announcers was incredible. Sanchez should have been mad at himself not his fighter after the second fight for shooting off his mouth. Canelo is the annointed face of boxing no question.

[Bjl12]

You've never heard fighters and promoters claiming they are going to KO the other guy or that the other guy has no balls. It happens all the time. Able likes to talk and he does it a lot. He claimed at one point that Golovkin would be a bigger star than Ali. It's what happens in the ring that counts. Yeah Canelo did better in the rematch but he lost a close fight. As Russ Anber said, that talk (primarily by Sanchez) backfired with the judges. He had Golovkin winning by the way. I watched the first four rounds of the first fight again and the bias for Canelo by the announcers was incredible. Sanchez should have been mad at himself not his fighter after the second fight for shooting off his mouth. Canelo is the annointed face of boxing no question.

And, as usual, you selectively pick at my comments.

Abel said both before and AFTER the fight that Canelo fought the fight THEY WANTED.

Either it wasn't GGG's night or Canelo is better than they thought.

Regarding the 1st fight...there's no bias. GGG started late. 1st round was a toss-up. Canelo won 2 and 3 without question. Rd 4 is where there is some debate. I think it was Rd 6 where Canelo could be argued to have won, but GGG won 5, 7, 8, and 9 without question. Some debate can be had about 10 and 12 in the 1st fight.

Just rewatched Round 3. I can't in good conscience give GGG that round. He was outlanded in every meaningful punch, threw mostly pitter-patter punches (still feeling Canelo out) and almost everything big he threw was blocked or partially blocked. Canelo was accurate, strong, and defended very well.





All 3 judges (in first fight) gave Canelo rounds 1, 2, 10, 11, and 12. Other rounds sprinkled in between. That is namely why I have no clue what GGGstans (like yourself) whine about when crying "ROBBERY". It was a fight where 5 rounds were given to the same fighter on every scorecard. Even the fan apps gave Canelo 1, 2, 10, 11, 12. The debate exists primarily over rounds 3 and 4 and I felt 3 was an easy round to score...so it really just comes down to round 4 which was a toss-up round.



That is why I gave Canelo both fights 7-5, but I can understand and accept alternative scores

[Shape up]

This will be the last time I respond to you on this topic.

The first and second fights were very different. What changed was Canelo's gameplan.

Abel is on the record asking for exactly what happened - Canelo to stand and trade - that was GGG's gameplan. Abel even said after the fight that Canelo gave them exactly what they wanted.

Abel is ALSO on record saying he can't complain about the judges because Canelo fought a great fight.

If you are upset about the gameplan of a fighter in either fight please contact their camp. Most people saw a winner, albeit narrow, but only rabid fans whined about robberies or controversy.

There was never a robbery. I felt Canelo won both fights 7-5 and I'd be happy to go through those fights if you wanted. I also am not put-off if someone says GGG won both fights 7-5 although I think GGG winning 7 rounds in the 2nd fight is pushing it. Nonetheless deviating 1 round from the official judge(s) is not outrageous.

The two guys are evenly matched no matter how you slice it. They could fight 10 times and after 120 rounds it could be something like 54-54-12. The most glaring difference is their age and, if you can remain objective, it is very hard to pretend Canelo ducked.

Canelo has fought Lara, Trout, Floyd, Cotto, GGG...and the 2nd GGG was coming of a year layoff (without a tuneup), knee surgery, and PED speculation. And now he will fight top contender Danny Jacobs

GGG has fought Canelo and Danny Jacobs. There are no other legitimate threats on his entire professional resume. Like it or not GGG has one of the worst boxing resumes in any weight class today. And he had chances to fight Andrade, Dervenchenko, BJS, Canelo/Cotto in 2015 at a catchweight, Ward at 168, Lara, and others I'm probably forgetting. He chose not to take those fights so he must live with those consequences.

If one is to objectively examine each fighter...one guy who is guilty of ducking can never be Canelo. He has never ducked. I believe him when he says he'll fight "so and so" when he's ready. He said in 2015 he'd fight GGG when he's body was ready for 160 which he forecasted would be 2 years...GGG V Canelo 1 happened in 2017 with the rematch in 2018.

GGG balked with Ward, Canelo/Cotto in 2015 over a few pounds, never acknowledged Lara, passed up on BJS, Andrade, and Dervenchenko. Those are champion caliber opponents. Instead he continued fighting the Vanes of the world and has nobody to blame but himself.

Oh and the reason Canelo is fighting Danny Jacobs in May is because GGG doesn't want the 3rd fight. GGG prefers a different opponent. It's clear as day to those who aren't wearing extremely biased glass lenses

See, this is the exact reason your a Canelo fanboy and not a boxing fan, you agree Canelo gets preferential treatment so in giving a draw in the first fight the judges must have scored every possible round to Canelo regardless whether he was deserving of that round or not, to have 80% view it as a GGG win is huge, you say all the trainers and fighters said he won the second fight and push that as proof yet more said that GGG won the 1st fight and you are happy to dismiss that, you say look at his face, I say watch Chavez v Taylor and that will prove that wrong, GGGs face looked nearly as bad against rosado yet you dismiss that as well, you find every possible excuse for Canelo, he was willing to dump the belt to avoid GGG and wait 2 years for him to get a bit older, he has been suspended for PED use, but you would forgive anything

[Bjl12]

See, this is the exact reason your a Canelo fanboy and not a boxing fan, you agree Canelo gets preferential treatment so in giving a draw in the first fight the judges must have scored every possible round to Canelo regardless whether he was deserving of that round or not, to have 80% view it as a GGG win is huge, you say all the trainers and fighters said he won the second fight and push that as proof yet more said that GGG won the 1st fight and you are happy to dismiss that, you say look at his face, I say watch Chavez v Taylor and that will prove that wrong, GGGs face looked nearly as bad against rosado yet you dismiss that as well, you find every possible excuse for Canelo, he was willing to dump the belt to avoid GGG and wait 2 years for him to get a bit older, he has been suspended for PED use, but you would forgive anything

No. I had Canelo winning 7-5. All three judges of first fight gave Canelo rounds 1, 2, 10, 11, and 12. Even Dave Moretti who scored the fight for GGG.



I have no clue how anyone could give GGG the 3rd round...it was a dominant Canelo round without question. I also felt the 4th could go either way. I also felt Canelo had a case for the 6th round.

Hell even Harold Lederman gave Canelo the 3rd round and he had Gennady winning by like 10 rounds...

Here's fan scorecards from Eye on the Ring

https://www.eyeonthering.com/boxing/gennady-golovkin-vs-saul-alvarez

According to Eye on the Ring it was 6-6. I felt Canelo won the 4th and a case could be made for the 6th. Gennady could make a case for the 10th and 11th round, but I think most of the rounds were close yet clear

[Shape up]

No. I had Canelo winning 7-5. All three judges of first fight gave Canelo rounds 1, 2, 10, 11, and 12. Even Dave Moretti who scored the fight for GGG.



I have no clue how anyone could give GGG the 3rd round...it was a dominant Canelo round without question. I also felt the 4th could go either way. I also felt Canelo had a case for the 6th round.

Hell even Harold Lederman gave Canelo the 3rd round and he had Gennady winning by like 10 rounds...

Here's fan scorecards from Eye on the Ring

https://www.eyeonthering.com/boxing/gennady-golovkin-vs-saul-alvarez

According to Eye on the Ring it was 6-6. I felt Canelo won the 4th and a case could be made for the 6th. Gennady could make a case for the 10th and 11th round, but I think most of the rounds were close yet clear

Mookie Alexander
BloodyElbow.com 117-111 Golovkin
CBS Sports 117-111 Golovkin
Patrick Stumberg
MMAMania.com
116-112 Golovkin
Kevin McRae BleacherReport.com 116-112 Golovkin
Shaun Al-Shatti
MMAFighting.com 116-112 Golovkin
Ryan Frederick
WrestlingObserver.com 116-112 Golovkin
Harold Lederman
HBO 116-112 Golovkin
Dan Rafael
ESPN.com 116-112 Golovkin
Sherdog.com 116-112 Golovkin
Phil Murphy
ESPN 115-113 Golovkin
Paul Fontaine
WrestlingObserver.com 115-113 Golovkin
Kevin Iole
Yahoo.com 115-113 Golovkin
Wil Esco
BadLeftHook.com 115-113 Golovkin
Patrick Wyman
BleacherReport.com 115-113 Golovkin
Rob Tatum
CombatPress.com 115-113 Golovkin
Seán Sheehan
SevereMMA.com 115-113 Golovkin
MMABrasil.com.br 115-113 Golovkin
Chris Mannix
Yahoo! Sports 114-114 DRAW
Associated Press 114-114 DRAW
Lance Pugmire
L.A. Times 114-114 DRAW


Teddy Atlas --------------------------------> 118-110 GGG
Unnamed boxing site #1 ------------------> 118-110 GGG
Jeff Powell (UK Daily Mail) ----------------> 118-111 GGG
Kelly Pavlik ---------------------------------> 117-111 GGG
Mookie Alexander (Bloody Elbow) --------> 117-111 GGG
Brian Campbell (CBS) ---------------------> 117-111 GGG
Jack Rathborn (Mirror UK) ----------------> 117-111 GGG
Harold Lederman (HBO) ------------------> 116-112 GGG
Devon Alexander --------------------------> 116-112 GGG
Dan Rafael (ESPN) ------------------------> 116-112 GGG
Al Bernstein -------------------------------> 116-112 GGG
Bryan Graham (Guardian UK) ------------> 116-112 GGG
Gareth Davies (UK Telegraph) -----------> 116-112 GGG
Steve Bunce (BoxNation) ----------------> 116-112 GGG
Tom Loeffler ------------------------------> 116-112 GGG
Sergio Martinez ---------------------------> 116-112 GGG
Amir Khan ---------------------------------> 116-112 GGG
Matthew Macklin --------------------------> 116-112 GGG
Steve Lillis (BoxNation) -------------------> 116-112 GGG
Bob Velin (USA Today) --------------------> 116-112 GGG
Lyle Fitzsimmons (CBS) -------------------> 116-112 GGG
Kevin McRae (Bleacher Report) -----------> 116-112 GGG
Shaun Al-Shatti (MMA Fighting) ----------> 116-112 GGG
Ryan Frederick (Wrestling Observer) ----> 116-112 GGG
Patrick Stumberg (MMA Mania) ----------> 116-112 GGG
Michael Woods (Ring) --------------------> 116-112 GGG
Nigel Collins (ESPN) ----------------------> 116-112 GGG
Cliff Rold ----------------------------------> 116-112 GGG
Bad Left Hook Writer #2 -----------------> 116-112 GGG
John A. MacDonald (Boxing Monthly) ---> 116-112 GGG
Ron Lewis (The Times) -------------------> 116-112 GGG
Kevin Mitchell (Guardian UK) ------------> 116-113 GGG
Josh Taylor --------------------------------> 116-113 GGG
Joshua Bautsi -----------------------------> 116-113 GGG
Matt Christie (Boxing News) -------------> 116-113 GGG
Barry Jones (BoxNation) -----------------> 116-113 GGG
Adam Booth -------------------------------> 116-114 GGG
Jordan Breen (Sherdog) ------------------> 115-112 GGG
Caleb Truax -------------------------------> 115-113 GGG
Kevin Iole (Yahoo) ------------------------> 115-113 GGG
Gary Locket -------------------------------> 115-113 GGG
Will Esco (Bad Left Hook) -----------------> 115-113 GGG
Phil Murphy (ESPN) -----------------------> 115-113 GGG
Mike Harris (SI) ---------------------------> 115-113 GGG
Paul Fontaine (Wrestling Observer) ------> 115-113 GGG
MMA Brazil ---------------------------------> 115-113 GGG
Sean Sheehan (Severe MMA) -------------> 115-113 GGG
Rob Tatum (Combat Press) ----------------> 115-113 GGG
Patrick Wyman (Bleacher Report) ---------> 115-113 GGG
Joel Diaz ------------------------------------> 115-113 GGG
Marc Livitz (SecondsOut) ------------------> 115-113 GGG
Stephen A. Smith (ESPN) -----------------> 115-113 GGG
Graham Houston (Boxing Monthly) -------> 115-113 GGG
Ed Robinson (Sky Sports) -----------------> 115-113 GGG
Unnamed boxing site #2 ------------------> 115-113 GGG
Tom Gray (Ring) ---------------------------> 115-114 GGG
Max Kellerman -----------------------------> Golovkin
Lennox Lewis ------------------------------> Golovkin
Shane Mosley ------------------------------> Golovkin
Austin Trout --------------------------------> Golovkin
Paulie Malignaggi --------------------------> Golovkin
Enzo Macarenelli ---------------------------> Golovkin
Scott Cardle --------------------------------> Golvokin
Terence Crawford ---------------------------> Golovkin
Reece Bellotti ------------------------------> Golvokin
Liam Smith ---------------------------------> Golovkin
Peter Quillin --------------------------------> Golovkin
Liam Williams ------------------------------> Golovkin
Ohara Davies -------------------------------> Golovkin
Luke Campbell -----------------------------> Golovkin
Dave Coldwell ------------------------------> Golovkin
Badou Jack ---------------------------------> Golovkin
Kevin Kelly (boxer) -------------------------> Golovkin
Steve Kim -----------------------------------> Golovkin
Doug Fischer --------------------------------> Golovkin
Ring TV guy (name?) ----------------------> Golvokin
Cornelius Bundrage ------------------------> Golovkin
Gabriel Rosado ------------------------------> Golovkin
Kal Yafai -------------------------------------> Golovkin
Julian Williams ------------------------------> Golovkin
Vanes Martirosyan --------------------------> Golovkin
Michael Montero ----------------------------> Golovkin
James Brady (SB Nation) ------------------> Golovkin
Joe Rogan (UFC) ----------------------------> Golovkin
Jim Rome (sports broadcaster) ------------> Golovkin
Kovalev -------------------------------------> Golvokin
Chavez Jr -----------------------------------> Golovkin
Danny Jacobs -------------------------------> Golovkin
Murat Gassiev ------------------------------> Golovkin
Johnny Nelson ------------------------------> Golovkin
Rosie Perez ---------------------------------> Golovkin
Lou DiBella ---------------------------------> Golovkin
Tony Jeffries --------------------------------> Golovkin
Martin Samuel (UK Daily Mail) -------------> Golovkin
Dave Allen ----------------------------------> Golovkin
Joseph Parker ------------------------------> Golovkin
You try hard with excuses

[Bjl12]

Mookie Alexander
BloodyElbow.com 117-111 Golovkin
CBS Sports 117-111 Golovkin
Patrick Stumberg
MMAMania.com
116-112 Golovkin
Kevin McRae BleacherReport.com 116-112 Golovkin
Shaun Al-Shatti
MMAFighting.com 116-112 Golovkin
Ryan Frederick
WrestlingObserver.com 116-112 Golovkin
Harold Lederman
HBO 116-112 Golovkin
Dan Rafael
ESPN.com 116-112 Golovkin
Sherdog.com 116-112 Golovkin
Phil Murphy
ESPN 115-113 Golovkin
Paul Fontaine
WrestlingObserver.com 115-113 Golovkin
Kevin Iole
Yahoo.com 115-113 Golovkin
Wil Esco
BadLeftHook.com 115-113 Golovkin
Patrick Wyman
BleacherReport.com 115-113 Golovkin
Rob Tatum
CombatPress.com 115-113 Golovkin
Seán Sheehan
SevereMMA.com 115-113 Golovkin
MMABrasil.com.br 115-113 Golovkin
Chris Mannix
Yahoo! Sports 114-114 DRAW
Associated Press 114-114 DRAW
Lance Pugmire
L.A. Times 114-114 DRAW


Teddy Atlas --------------------------------> 118-110 GGG
Unnamed boxing site #1 ------------------> 118-110 GGG
Jeff Powell (UK Daily Mail) ----------------> 118-111 GGG
Kelly Pavlik ---------------------------------> 117-111 GGG
Mookie Alexander (Bloody Elbow) --------> 117-111 GGG
Brian Campbell (CBS) ---------------------> 117-111 GGG
Jack Rathborn (Mirror UK) ----------------> 117-111 GGG
Harold Lederman (HBO) ------------------> 116-112 GGG
Devon Alexander --------------------------> 116-112 GGG
Dan Rafael (ESPN) ------------------------> 116-112 GGG
Al Bernstein -------------------------------> 116-112 GGG
Bryan Graham (Guardian UK) ------------> 116-112 GGG
Gareth Davies (UK Telegraph) -----------> 116-112 GGG
Steve Bunce (BoxNation) ----------------> 116-112 GGG
Tom Loeffler ------------------------------> 116-112 GGG
Sergio Martinez ---------------------------> 116-112 GGG
Amir Khan ---------------------------------> 116-112 GGG
Matthew Macklin --------------------------> 116-112 GGG
Steve Lillis (BoxNation) -------------------> 116-112 GGG
Bob Velin (USA Today) --------------------> 116-112 GGG
Lyle Fitzsimmons (CBS) -------------------> 116-112 GGG
Kevin McRae (Bleacher Report) -----------> 116-112 GGG
Shaun Al-Shatti (MMA Fighting) ----------> 116-112 GGG
Ryan Frederick (Wrestling Observer) ----> 116-112 GGG
Patrick Stumberg (MMA Mania) ----------> 116-112 GGG
Michael Woods (Ring) --------------------> 116-112 GGG
Nigel Collins (ESPN) ----------------------> 116-112 GGG
Cliff Rold ----------------------------------> 116-112 GGG
Bad Left Hook Writer #2 -----------------> 116-112 GGG
John A. MacDonald (Boxing Monthly) ---> 116-112 GGG
Ron Lewis (The Times) -------------------> 116-112 GGG
Kevin Mitchell (Guardian UK) ------------> 116-113 GGG
Josh Taylor --------------------------------> 116-113 GGG
Joshua Bautsi -----------------------------> 116-113 GGG
Matt Christie (Boxing News) -------------> 116-113 GGG
Barry Jones (BoxNation) -----------------> 116-113 GGG
Adam Booth -------------------------------> 116-114 GGG
Jordan Breen (Sherdog) ------------------> 115-112 GGG
Caleb Truax -------------------------------> 115-113 GGG
Kevin Iole (Yahoo) ------------------------> 115-113 GGG
Gary Locket -------------------------------> 115-113 GGG
Will Esco (Bad Left Hook) -----------------> 115-113 GGG
Phil Murphy (ESPN) -----------------------> 115-113 GGG
Mike Harris (SI) ---------------------------> 115-113 GGG
Paul Fontaine (Wrestling Observer) ------> 115-113 GGG
MMA Brazil ---------------------------------> 115-113 GGG
Sean Sheehan (Severe MMA) -------------> 115-113 GGG
Rob Tatum (Combat Press) ----------------> 115-113 GGG
Patrick Wyman (Bleacher Report) ---------> 115-113 GGG
Joel Diaz ------------------------------------> 115-113 GGG
Marc Livitz (SecondsOut) ------------------> 115-113 GGG
Stephen A. Smith (ESPN) -----------------> 115-113 GGG
Graham Houston (Boxing Monthly) -------> 115-113 GGG
Ed Robinson (Sky Sports) -----------------> 115-113 GGG
Unnamed boxing site #2 ------------------> 115-113 GGG
Tom Gray (Ring) ---------------------------> 115-114 GGG
Max Kellerman -----------------------------> Golovkin
Lennox Lewis ------------------------------> Golovkin
Shane Mosley ------------------------------> Golovkin
Austin Trout --------------------------------> Golovkin
Paulie Malignaggi --------------------------> Golovkin
Enzo Macarenelli ---------------------------> Golovkin
Scott Cardle --------------------------------> Golvokin
Terence Crawford ---------------------------> Golovkin
Reece Bellotti ------------------------------> Golvokin
Liam Smith ---------------------------------> Golovkin
Peter Quillin --------------------------------> Golovkin
Liam Williams ------------------------------> Golovkin
Ohara Davies -------------------------------> Golovkin
Luke Campbell -----------------------------> Golovkin
Dave Coldwell ------------------------------> Golovkin
Badou Jack ---------------------------------> Golovkin
Kevin Kelly (boxer) -------------------------> Golovkin
Steve Kim -----------------------------------> Golovkin
Doug Fischer --------------------------------> Golovkin
Ring TV guy (name?) ----------------------> Golvokin
Cornelius Bundrage ------------------------> Golovkin
Gabriel Rosado ------------------------------> Golovkin
Kal Yafai -------------------------------------> Golovkin
Julian Williams ------------------------------> Golovkin
Vanes Martirosyan --------------------------> Golovkin
Michael Montero ----------------------------> Golovkin
James Brady (SB Nation) ------------------> Golovkin
Joe Rogan (UFC) ----------------------------> Golovkin
Jim Rome (sports broadcaster) ------------> Golovkin
Kovalev -------------------------------------> Golvokin
Chavez Jr -----------------------------------> Golovkin
Danny Jacobs -------------------------------> Golovkin
Murat Gassiev ------------------------------> Golovkin
Johnny Nelson ------------------------------> Golovkin
Rosie Perez ---------------------------------> Golovkin
Lou DiBella ---------------------------------> Golovkin
Tony Jeffries --------------------------------> Golovkin
Martin Samuel (UK Daily Mail) -------------> Golovkin
Dave Allen ----------------------------------> Golovkin
Joseph Parker ------------------------------> Golovkin
You try hard with excuses

If you click on Page 5 of this thread we already did this.

As usual GGGstans deflect and run when it comes to SOURCES and EVIDENCE.

There is no photoshop. There is no conspiracy.

People who know boxing, like professional boxers and trainers, make better judges than sports telebroadcasters like Jim Lampley or Harold Lederman. This is not up for debate. I post link with Hall of Fame fighters and trainers...you post link with sport center guys Stephen A Smith and Kenny Bayless...



Its irrefutable.

Also, no photoshop. Your boy crush got whooped - deal with it

[Senor_frogs]

If you click on Page 5 of this thread we already did this.

His other crush Loma is fighting Corolla. But he’ll find a way to justify it

[Bjl12]

His other crush Loma is fighting Corolla. But he’ll find a way to justify it

I like Loma. He's a hell of a fighter and actually backs up his claims to greatness by...fighting the best.

Hell Loma moves up or down in weight and does whatever it takes to...fight!

What's not to like? The guy's a stud!

And I don't expect Loma to fight a monster every time out the same way I don't expect it for Canelo, AJ, TC, Usyk, etc.