Is Luis Ortiz the greatest myth in boxing history?

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  • j.razor
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    #101
    Originally posted by Laligalaliga
    it's no AJ's fault he jumped ship. He was not patient enough, now he has to join the queue and fight credible opponents before he gets AJ's retirement pay.
    This is the hurt business so there isn't time to waste especially since Aj's promoter can't even get the big fights made.

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      #102
      Originally posted by kafkod
      Lol at you calling Nathan Gorman a hype job! He fought Cojanu as a 22 year old 14 fight novice with limited amateur experience. Nobody is calling Nathan the bogeyman of the HW division!
      Why should they? He is average at best, nothing special.

      Do you contradict urself all the time for fun? Gorman is nothing special. And they were saying he would beat dubois LOL. Ortiz flattened cojanu who is literally a punching bag. Nathan just kept pitty patting him and gassed his way to a boring decision. Levels

      22yo you say? Well the 22yo 'prodigy' struggled while 'geriatric heart problemed cuban hypejob' crushed him.

      And how is gorman NOT a hypejob?

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        #103
        Originally posted by j.razor
        This is the hurt business so there isn't time to waste especially since Aj's promoter can't even get the big fights made.
        Asking wba to remove ortiz from mando and rankings because of the result of another sanctioning bodies findings in his tests was beyond pathetic. Shady and corrupt as hell. But he will get a title shot against aj, i believe. This year i think his management will get him some better fights against top ten or top five guys, i feel. He can go the wbo wbc or ibf route, and even the wba if they reinstate him (they should asap)

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          #104
          Originally posted by j.razor
          But Aj who won't fight him is "elite elite"?
          Joshua passed the elite test against Wlad while Ortiz lost to wilder on his biggest stage. He practically dropped the ball during crucial moment while up several points . He is not a clutch fighter which puts him below that cream of the crop level.

          By today’s HW standards, Joshua is elite.

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          • j.razor
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            #105
            Originally posted by Laligalaliga
            Lolx.... kauffman n cojanu.
            You are such a good comedian.
            Guys ranked close to 100 to earn another title shot?
            Go get your brain examined.
            At least kauffman n cojanu got got heart to get in the ring with King Kong UNLIKE Aj & Whyte. There is a lot of Tail Tucking round here. Go get your heart examined.

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              #106
              I think his resume is average, the obvious narrative is the need to bump him up to make him look like a killer due to Wilder. At the end of the day his resume would be what makes him look like a killer.

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                #107
                Originally posted by kafkod
                It doesn't sound funny, it just sounds very, very dumb.

                Ortiz was AJ's mandatory challenger. He would have had his shot at AJ by now if he'd stayed with Matchroom and waited for it, instead of signing with Haymon and going after Wilder instead.

                What part of that don't you understand?
                How many big fights eddie has done?

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by DreamFighter
                  if it werent true he'd not have tried to unify.

                  Unification is a case for becoming or being elite.
                  Unify everything else but the D.Wilder belt (WBC)

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                  • kafkod
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by JSN006
                    A leftovers line. Yawn. Try harder dude, please. You must be new to boxing. Ortiz would fight someone if they accepted. You guys are literally going in circles. 'They shouldnt fight him cuz he brings nothing but he should fight someone' is essentially your argument. Lol talk about asinine.


                    PS whyte ducked him in december. You need to keep up with the news, dumdum

                    There is nothing to suggest an ortiz aj fight will do bad with the uk public if the aj molina/martin/breazeale fights were accepted by the public. Try some
                    Other dumb excuse now, hearn fanboy. Amuse me. Defo a millennial and a biatch too
                    Fck off, ****head.

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by kafkod
                      You wouldn't get enough signatures for a petition, but you could write a letter to Al Haymon, or whoever it is that promotes Ortiz now, and ask him to start offering decent money to some of these guys you think Ortiz should be getting fights with. Hearn doesn't owe him a living, you know.
                      WTF is YOU talking about?!?! No one in Al's camp complaining. FOH with that dumb shet. What fights has eddie done or is getting done??

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