Is Luis Ortiz the greatest myth in boxing history?

[JWHardin]

He is clearly one of the best HWs out there today and resume or not its why the Brits on this site bring up his resume and age because they're absolutely petrified of their favourite fighters taking a risk against him.

These are boxing fans, you would think they were the fighters girlfriends or something.

Why don't people want to see the best fight the best? To see fighters challenge themselves?

Ortiz ain't beat nobody doe naa but you'll soon talk up Carlos Takam and the likes with their HOF resumes.

Great post!

[j.razor]

IMO, Joshua and Fury beat Ortiz. Reasonable opinions differ!

If Joshua doesn't get Wilder or Fury on April 13th, I guess Ortiz would answer a question. Whyte doesn't and that's why I don't want a rematch.

I wouldn't bet Aj & Fury beat King Kong & vice versa so I would like to see it. Let's see what happens.

[kafkod]

Hearn signed him to keep him away from AJ, as funny as it sounds.

It doesn't sound funny, it just sounds very, very dumb.

Ortiz was AJ's mandatory challenger. He would have had his shot at AJ by now if he'd stayed with Matchroom and waited for it, instead of signing with Haymon and going after Wilder instead.

What part of that don't you understand?

[HOUDINI563]

It’s easy to be a contender in a world of 40-40 top ten contenders. Ortiz is a result of this highly watered down world of pro boxing we see today.

[j.razor]

'elite'

NOUN
a select group that is superior in terms of ability or qualities to the rest of a group or society.

Joshua, Fury and maybe Wilder are classed as elite by definition because they have superior attributes depending on who you use as an example.

They are all MASSIVE! I'm 6'5" and would feel small next to these guys.

As a group then its D.Wilder, Fury, Ortiz, Joshua & ?.

[j.razor]

Thats a spot on post,I might have wrote that myself once. Though since then its arguable that a handful are trying to become elite - joshua springs to mind.

If that were true he would of took the 50 million he asked for.

[j.razor]

This is what I've been saying all along. How can a fighter be regarded so highly when he hadn't had one signature win on his resume prior to fighting Wilder? He was made out to be this boogeyman who was plowing through an already weak division. Epitome of hype-job. He gasses out after 8 rounds and has no stamina.

Mr. block, how are you doing? All your favorites are WAY overrated & they aint even rated

[j.razor]

he is an 8 round fighter, nothing more, hyped so that wilder could have a crap defence again.

Then why did Aj duck him? Why doesn't Aj fight him??

[DreamFighter]

Then why did Aj duck him? Why doesn't Aj fight him??

For the same reason Ortiz doesnt read Harry Potter novels, cos hes a 40 year old man

[DreamFighter]

If that were true he would of took the 50 million he asked for.

if it werent true he'd not have tried to unify.

Unification is a case for becoming or being elite.