Is Luis Ortiz the greatest myth in boxing history?

[Sparked_26]

He’s quite good, probably.

Joe Joyce has called him out. Fight him.

[JWHardin]

I had a good look at his career today and his resume is AWFUL.

Like, it's not even a top 50 resume this decade

Yet we hear how if you say dudes name 3 times in a dark room and spin in a circle with your eyes closed he magically appears and ko's you with a left hook.

It wouldn't be AS bad if he was a 25 year old kid with his resume getting hyped but he's a 40 year old man.

Everyone uses his poor resume as an excuse NOT to fight him. Wilder is regarded as one of the top 3 by everyone, and Ortiz had him out on his feet in a fight where many refs would have stopped the bout.

Ortiz showed he could fight when he KO'd Jennings, when Wlad couldn't....a younger Wlad than AJ or Fury fought.

Hearn signed him to keep him away from AJ, as funny as it sounds. Now he avoids letting anyone in his stable in the ring with him. If he is so easy, why do most have him rated so high? If he is so easy, use him for a tune up.

Imo, he is the most talented boxer in the heavyweight ranks, with enough power to KO most in the top 10, if he gets a chance.

[JWHardin]

He’s quite good, probably.

Joe Joyce has called him out. Fight him.

Ortiz accepted the challenge, just like he did with Whyte. Now team Joyce has gone quiet.

[48cantCstraight]

Odlanier Solis 2.0

[Toffee]

Ortiz may be a myth, but the problem is, no one seems to be ready to dispel that myth.

Do they win an "I dispelled the myth" T Shirt for doing it?

He's a dangerous fighter.

Say, for example, Dillian Whyte takes him on, which is about the biggest fight Ortiz could hope for right now. If Whyte wins everyone will say Ortiz is shot - two losses the only time he ever really stepped up in quality. If Ortiz wins, that's Whyte's title hopes cooked.

Why would Whyte do it?

Fighters outside the top 5 face the same issue. There are easier fights for more credibility. In many cases there are easier fights for a hell of a lot more money too.

It's not ducking if the fights simply don't make sense.

I wonder if someone like Parker might see him as the sort of scalp he needs to rebuild his career? But, again, would you pick Ortiz if you were one fight away from top level irrelevance?

[GGG Gloveking]

Do they win an "I dispelled the myth" T Shirt for doing it?

He's a dangerous fighter.

Say, for example, Dillian Whyte takes him on, which is about the biggest fight Ortiz could hope for right now. If Whyte wins everyone will say Ortiz is shot - two losses the only time he ever really stepped up in quality. If Ortiz wins, that's Whyte's title hopes cooked.

Why would Whyte do it?

Fighters outside the top 5 face the same issue. There are easier fights for more credibility. In many cases there are easier fights for a hell of a lot more money too.

It's not ducking if the fights simply don't make sense.

I wonder if someone like Parker might see him as the sort of scalp he needs to rebuild his career? But, again, would you pick Ortiz if you were one fight away from top level irrelevance?

They kind of should win a "I dispelled the myth" T-shirt in the public eye. The same people, like myself, who are bigging up Ortiz as this still dangerous fighter, should be obligated to give respect to Whyte if he beat him. Instead, Whyte looks like a duck.

"Why would he do it?" You ask. Brother, you're talking to the wrong with that line. Dillan Whyte gave that man a time and a place, and that man said yes. I'm about to drive 250 miles round trip this weekend because a man gave me a time and a place, and I said yes.

Dillan Whyte, if he didn't want to fight Ortiz, should have kept his mouth shut. Just like some other people...

[Sparked_26]

Ortiz accepted the challenge, just like he did with Whyte. Now team Joyce has gone quiet.

I can’t see that.

Joyce needs to push on now. Before the Hrgovic’s and Yoko’s surpass him.

Time is not on his side if he wants some money out of his pro career.

Ortiz is a bit of scalp imo.

I can see why Whyte wouldn’t fight him because he’s got millions on the horizon. As has Miller.

But the others. I think they’ll all fight him if the moneys there.

The issue is. It probably isn’t

[Citizen Koba]

I had a good look at his career today and his resume is AWFUL.

Like, it's not even a top 50 resume this decade

Yet we hear how if you say dudes name 3 times in a dark room and spin in a circle with your eyes closed he magically appears and ko's you with a left hook.

It wouldn't be AS bad if he was a 25 year old kid with his resume getting hyped but he's a 40 year old man.

What? In all of boxing history? I doubt it.

No-one cared about him at all till the last year or so so and in another year or two he'll be just as forgotten. Hell, the only people who care about him much right now are his family, some other Cubans and two of the partisan factions in the tiny bubble world of boxing forums. Myths by definition have to have a certain longevity.

[dan_cov]

He is clearly one of the best HWs out there today and resume or not its why the Brits on this site bring up his resume and age because they're absolutely petrified of their favourite fighters taking a risk against him.

These are boxing fans, you would think they were the fighters girlfriends or something.

Why don't people want to see the best fight the best? To see fighters challenge themselves?

Ortiz ain't beat nobody doe naa but you'll soon talk up Carlos Takam and the likes with their HOF resumes.

[DreamFighter]

Look bud, I'm a GGG fan. I've heard all these lines from Canelo fans for years. We don't need him. Who has he fought? He brings nothing to the table. I've heard it all before. One thing, no one seems to say, is that Ortiz can't ****.

We all watched Whyte run to Chisora after calling out Ortiz.

Ortiz may be a myth, but the problem is, no one seems to be ready to dispel that myth.

hes as much a myth as you are in the ring then