Originally posted by travestyny
View Post
Announcement
Collapse
No announcement yet.
Why did Mayweather retire in 2008?
Collapse
-
Originally posted by 4truth View PostWhy Oscar showed up in the shape he did in December could be debated seperately but has nothing whatsoever to do with a decision Floyd made in June about a September fight.
But seems you are trying to say he un-retired right after Hoya because he was afraid of him is silly. I don't even think anyone would want to see that fight. He beat him already, and then Hoya was massacred by Manny. Hoya was pretty much irrelevant at that point, which is likely why he retired in the first place.
Comment
-
Originally posted by Bjl12 View PostFloyd was supposed to be afraid of an undefeated Paul Williams that lost to...Carlos Quintana?
Sorry. No version of Quintana is remotely comparable to Floyd.
Floyd was supposed to be afraid of a guy that got outboxed and stopped by a shot Mosley, humiliated against Pacman, and dominated in the Cotto rematch?
Sorry. Floyd wouldve beaten any version of Margarito - even if Margs used plaster. Floyd is not Cotto. Floyd does not get hit like Cotto did - literally never did.
[QUOTE=Bjl12;19421520]Floyd was supposed to be afraid of an undefeated Paul Williams that lost to...Carlos Quintana?
Sugar Ray Lenrd:
Are you serious? Paul Williams was undefeated at the time, so yeah he was quite imposing. To mentioned what happen against Quintana (which was after the fact) it doesn't change history. your reaching...so he lost a decision to Quintana, just like Floyd did with Maidana, Williams like Floyd avenged the lost in a rematch...
[QUOTE=Bjl12;19421520]
Sorry. No version of Quintana is remotely comparable to Floyd.
Sugar Ray Lenrd:
What does that have to do with Floyd retiring when the Welterwgt div was heated up? He still quit before Williams lost.
[QUOTE=Bjl12;
Floyd was supposed to be afraid of a guy that got outboxed and stopped by a shot Mosley, humiliated against Pacman, and dominated in the Cotto rematch?
Sugar Ray Lenrd:
Whut da hell??? All those fights that Margarito lost were after Floyd retired, and styles make fights so that's irrelevant! The fact is Floyd quit! he didn't want none of this during this time....
And no Floyd wasn't afraid but he just wasn't willing to make those fights and they were for good money at the time. so he quit! and all the other guys fought and practically killed each other...
[QUOTE=Bjl12;
Sorry. Floyd wouldve beaten any version of Margarito - even if Margs used plaster. Floyd is not Cotto. Floyd does not get hit like Cotto did - literally never did.[/QUOTE]
Sugar Ray Lenrd:
Sorry bro, in boxing it don't go that way, in order to beat someone you have to fight them , that on paper crap doesn't work here. Again the bottom line is he quit boxing when you had all these dogs wanting to fight. forget about the money wasn't right, the promoters don't work together & Oh i'll never fight under so & so promos...
all that you mentioned was after the fact ...
Comment
-
Originally posted by bballchump11 View PostHagler didn't fight
Sumbu Kalambay, Mike McCallum, or Michael Nunn all in their prime ranked in the top 10 when he retired.
Comment
-
-
Originally posted by sugar ray lenrd View PostYou need think Cotto got shook because of the way Floyd whipped Gatti?
Dude Gatti(rip) wasn’t that good to begin with he got beat by Manfredy & anther lightweight that his name escapes me at the moment...
Truth is
I was hyped after Floyd beat Hatton, because now there was Cotto, Williams, Margarito, Mosley, Cintron & Floyd. This was the 80’s all over again.......And what does Floyd do?...... he retires!!!
Now you draw your own conclusions... And this is why the boxing world has against him. He quit when the going got tough. This right here was his chance to become TBE.... instead he QUIT!!!
He QUIT WHEN THEY WERE ALL IN THEIR FRESH PRIME/UNDEFEATED....
and after floyd left TR that fight wasnt getting made for the reasons i explained....arum wasnt feeding any of his guys to take an L from the guy that left his company.....floyd/cotto got made easily once cotto got free from arum when he did
you line up a row of 6-7 names of guys he didnt fight...or didnt fight at a time when you wanted.....and thats the problem with boxing fans...when they dont like a guy they will always line up guy they didnt fight...heres a newsflash he couldnt fight them all and he couldnt do it consecutively....its not feasible....so he let some of them sort themselves out and they did......and fought what was left
take your favorite fighters and apply the same standards.....take loma or whoever you like and put 6-7 tough/dangerous guys in a row...i bet youll say "well no is taking back to back tough fights now...and plus he had surgery".........
Comment
-
lmao
some of these guys want floyd to go back in time and fight 3x a year in 2007 & 2008 and want him fighting cotto, margacheato, cintron, shane, williams and whoever...lolol
but wont apply that standard to your favorites...."oh he had surgery...oh he deserves a light touch he just had a tough fight no one takes tough back to backs"
Comment
-
[QUOTE=Dosumpthin;
Question: why did this "80's all over again" era only lasted for 1 year? I mean Sugar came back after time off.....it was still 80s. Why did this mythical era during Floyd's time off magically disappear?[/QUOTE]
It didn't magically disappeared, what happen was that they all practically fought each other. And it didn't last just 1 year...
Cotto/Margarito
Williams/Margarito
Margarito/Mosley
Cotto/Mosley
I might've missed some here...
Comment
-
Originally posted by sugar ray lenrd View PostIt didn't magically disappeared, what happen was that they all practically fought each other. And it didn't last just 1 year...
Cotto/Margarito
Williams/Margarito
Margarito/Mosley
Cotto/Mosley
I might've missed some here...
and yes floyd let some of them sort each other out....you cant fight everyone....its not feasible....hold todays faves of yours to that standard too
Comment
-
Originally posted by Fists_of_Fury View PostOp doesn't want a logical answer so...
He needed to bulk up and use PEDs. Let other fighters beat eachother. He was ducking Pacquiao that early and got so scared he retired. He was ducking Williams and/or Margacheato and retired. That should cover all the lame dumbass things op and his gay buddied are looking for.
Comment
Comment