Oscar De La Hoya was hugely overrated

[STREET CLEANER]

It took ODH to go up in weight and fight great fighters to get his loses. He did loose to Sturm in my eyes and has a disputed loss against Trinidad and I thought he beat Mosley in the second fight.

[chitownboxing]

He is overrated. At his peak, he was GREAT. But his peak wasn't very long, and he never had that fight when he was a little older where he brought it back for one night. He started getting beat up pretty young. The SD loss to Mayweather is his biggest accomplishment in forever.

[McNulty]

Change my mind?

Always came up short against legitimate world level compeititors and got his ass beat 6 times.

When you take into account his many gift decisions his L's would be double figures.

His biggest achievement was sharing a ring with TBE.

When he was 16 he was beating the dogshít out of JCC senior.

Ruelas, Gernaro Hernandez, Leija were all good wins and dangerous fighters.

JCC Sr. still was very very dangerous and Oscar beat the daylights out of him. OScar wold have whipped JCC at his best. Too big, too strong, too fast, too dynamic.

SweetPea was getting close to the end, but he was still very much preserved from not taking much career damage and abilities still nasty. I didn't see the controversey, DLH clearly won.

Camacho was at the end for sure, but still decent.

Rivera had only lost to SweetPea and Oscar ruined him witht he knockout.

Carr was a very good win.

Robbed against Tito, but robbed Quartey so it's even. Quartey was a really good fighter. he gave Tito his first legit loss whether it's on a record or not.

Mosely, Castillejo, Vargas, Campas, and Mayorga were all great wins.

If you think Oscar was over-hyped you DKSAB and thats a fact Jack.

[The D3vil]

I used to think that, but as time goes on and boxing has degenerated, I have to give the "Golden Boy" his props.

He fought everyone in their primes. Mayweather, Pacquaio, Hopkins, Whittaker, Trinidad, etc. . .He did get some gifts against Quartey and Whittaker, but he also got robbed against Trinidad.

HE also beat the dog ***** out of Vargas and Mayorga

[QueensburyRules]

Change my mind?

Always came up short against legitimate world level compeititors and got his ass beat 6 times.

When you take into account his many gift decisions his L's would be double figures.

His biggest achievement was sharing a ring with TBE.

--- What, can't establish hi overrated ranking to knock him down a few pegs?

What grade you in Ox? 4th or advanced 5th?

[THC]

Add in Oscar really did beat Whitaker and you have Oscar's controversial points in his career down pretty well.

Robbed once vs Mosley on Steroids
Beat Floyd, but it was close, no robbery
Beat Trinidad
Beat a Roided Vargas as well
Beat a defensive wizard but not offensive enough Whitaker
Hopkins too big for him and lost

Overall a solid ATG

Yes, the main point being Oscar fought a solid list of fighters in their primes and losing to some of them does not diminish his perceived standing in the sport.

[brown_knight06]

Goldy was and is severely overrated. Just cause he fought everyone is not enough. You have to win the superfights. Ran from Tito in 2nd half of fight, outhussled by smm, I had ike winning even with the 2nd knockdown, took a phantom slap from hopkins then they become partners. There is nothing impressive or memorable about his career other than bringing more women to boxing.

[j0zef]

He was robbed in one of the Mosley fights, should have won the Trinidad fight, and IMO robbed vs. Floyd in a close fight. If a past-prime DLH loses a close split decision to a prime Mayweather--then Floyd must really be overrated!

End of thread here.

No matter how you score the fight vs. Floyd, it was close. If past his prime Oscar was close to prime Floyd, there's no way in bloody hell you can argue that he was overrated.

[kidbazooka]

When he was 16 he was beating the dogshít out of JCC senior.

Ruelas, Gernaro Hernandez, Leija were all good wins and dangerous fighters.

JCC Sr. still was very very dangerous and Oscar beat the daylights out of him. OScar wold have whipped JCC at his best. Too big, too strong, too fast, too dynamic.

SweetPea was getting close to the end, but he was still very much preserved from not taking much career damage and abilities still nasty. I didn't see the controversey, DLH clearly won.

Camacho was at the end for sure, but still decent.

Rivera had only lost to SweetPea and Oscar ruined him witht he knockout.

Carr was a very good win.

Robbed against Tito, but robbed Quartey so it's even. Quartey was a really good fighter. he gave Tito his first legit loss whether it's on a record or not.

Mosely, Castillejo, Vargas, Campas, and Mayorga were all great wins.

If you think Oscar was over-hyped you DKSAB and thats a fact Jack.

You gotta be a noob.

Oscar never beat the “dog *****” out of Chavez they had sparred a few times a Julio would take it easy but Oscar would go hard so then Chavez picked it up and dropped Oscar with a short left hook and after that Oscar kept it clean, there is video of this on YouTube.

There fight ended on a cut in 4 rds nothing happened except Chavez getting cut and flurried on in that rd, most likely Oscar would have won anyway but again a waaay past his best Chavez.

A prime Chavez destroys Oscar at 135-140 Oscar himself had even admitted to this.

But Oscar was a bad dude and a great fighter but using old Chavez as proof will not help your case.

[dannnnn]

De La Hoya wasn't overrated as a boxer, it's just that he became a cross-over star so he earned a hell of a lot more money than anyone else outside of the heavyweight division.

A lot of people claim he came up short in all of his big fights but that's simply not true. He had big (and deserving) wins over Ike Quartey, a prime (and roided up) Fernando Vargas, and a debateable but acceptable points win over Pernell Whitaker. He was also robbed of decision wins against Trinidad and the rematch against Mosley (look at Mosley after that fight- even HE knew he'd lost), not to mention lots of good - even if not elite - opposition splayed in between.

In fact, before his prime years were behind him, the only undeniable loss he should have had on his record was the first fight against Mosley. A close, highly competitive fight against "Sugar" Shane Mosley back when Mosley was at his absolute peak and truly worthy of such a nickname.

Another thing which shouldn't be overlooked is how many guys he fought when they were at or near to their prime. He didn't wait for anybody to get old, he fought them at their best (or nearer to it than he was his own, at least) and that's something to be commended, particularly in this day and age where fighters are becoming more and more risk averse.

So no, I don't think he's overrated. He was a great fighter in his heyday with a tremdendous jab and left hook. He won impressively against the guys he was supposed to beat and gave a great account of himself against the best fighters of his generation.

The only thing I disagree with is anyone who says he beat Mayweather. He started fast and put a few rounds in the bag but he won no more than 3-4 rounds total in that fight. The split-decision verdict was downright criminal.