GGG resume

[Citizen Koba]

If you think about it, GGG's resume is really poor. His three best wins are:

1) Jacobs
2) Lemieux
3) Andy Lee

Really shallow for an elite fighter, therefore not worthy to be HOF.

You should ring Canastota and make them aware of your opinion, man, cos the dudes on here don't actually get to decide that ish.

+1 315-697-7015.

http://www.ibhof.com/

Oh, and think you may be getting your Brits/Irish confused. He fought, Macklin and Murray and offered to fight Barker for free but the Lee fight fell through when GGGs dad died.

[DreamFighter]

and offered to fight Barker for free but the Lee fight fell through when GGGs dad died.

has he ever fought someone for free? no, so its fair bet he wasnt and would never.

its just another "would have", the word so commonly used by GGG fans.

That said, Lemmy was a good unification win and Jacobs a top defence, noone can knock that because its what he DID.

best wins -

1. Lemmy (since he knocked him out good)
2. Jacobs
3. losing streak Geale

a unification is some evidence of being elite, GGG just needs to add to this to cement his claim.

[Nash out]

His best wins are 1. Canelo 1 (117-111)
2. Canelo rematch (closer fight 115-113)
3. Jacobs (116-111)

Looks really good to me.

[BoxingIsGreat]

If you think about it, GGG's resume is really poor. His three best wins are:

1) Jacobs
2) Lemieux
3) Andy Lee

Really shallow for an elite fighter, therefore not worthy to be HOF.

GGG never fought Andy Lee as Koba pointed out. He didn't have his best competition until it was too late but still he's a good fighter, not some bum.

Hall of Fame? Who gives a **** about that? At least he has his two Canelo windfalls!

[Citizen Koba]

has he ever fought someone for free? no, so its fair bet he wasnt and would never.

its just another "would have", the word so commonly used by GGG fans.

That said, Lemmy was a good unification win and Jacobs a top defence, noone can knock that because its what he DID.

best wins -

1. Lemmy (since he knocked him out good)
2. Jacobs
3. losing streak Geale

a unification is some evidence of being elite, GGG just needs to add to this to cement his claim.

https://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-team-barker-told-me-f-off-golovkin-fight-offer--108513

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But you're right of course, we can't credit Golovkin with fights that didn't happen, regardless of the reason. My aim, in case you ain't got it yet, isn't to build Golovkin into some ATG fighter or even an 'elite' (however you define that), merely to to counter the myth that the weakness of his resume was somehow down to choice rather than circumstance.

[HarvardBlue]

I have mixed feelings about Golovkin's resume. I thought he lost to Jacobs and got a gift for the big fight potential with Canelo. I thought he beat Canelo the first time but was on the wrong end of a bad decision. Unlike some I don't hold the hypothetical fight against Ward against him although I think he would've been beaten. The same way I don't give him credit because he didn't get a shot at Cotto, Martinez, or whoever else supposedly avoided him.

His resume is ok, not bad, and certainly not great.

[Bjl12]

Add Canelo, but aside from that I agree, although he had longevity over b class fighters and the top tier ducked him like the plague. Outside of moving up in weight to get ****d by Ward, probably in Oakland, not much he could've done about the resume. It takes two to tango and he was simply outwaited

Damn. You must give away A's like a rich girl on NYE.

Gennady - literally - had a handful of B wins and then an entire resume of C's and D's. Proska and Rosado are C level fighters and have never been better than that at any point in their career.

Speaking of Gennadys best win...over Jacobs... it could legitimately be contended Gennady LOST that fight even with a K/D.

To help you (MMA or illiterate ESPN boxing fan) understand rankings heres a freebie. Canelo isnt even an A fighter. Hes B+, but he's definitively better than Gennady. Canelo lost to Floyd (A level fighter) and it could be argued Canelo lost to Lara and Gennady in their first fight. So Canelos ceiling could maybe reach A-, but he currently sits around B+ as he is highly ineffective against moving fighters.

Gennady is a B guy. He has - historically - one of the worst boxing resumes in recent memory...its historically bad and it's bad because of HIS CHOICES. He passed up chances for great legacy fights and either took the money fight or the safe route (i.e., Vanes or Lemieux).

Other relevant boxers:

Loma B/B+
Wilder C+
Thurman B-/B
Usyk B+ (move to A- with some noise at HW)
Crawford B/B+
Spence B- (his lone good fight against a broken and poorly conditioned Kell was 4-4 after 8..Charlo treatment happens when Spence finally starts fighting guys his own size or guys who are full-time boxers)

[TheSlickster]

GGG's best wins

1) Macklin-Gave a prime Martinez a hell of a fight
2) Murray-Same as Murray although Martinez wasn't the same. Stylistically he had the style that gave Sergio problems, Peek a boo high guard.
3) lemieux-A very good win that proved GGG had more than just power
4) Jacobs-An underrated win. Was a very close fight that GGG edged because of the knockdown. People who claim Jacobs won act as if he won 8 rounds. No way!
5) Brook-A guy who literally had his orbital bone broke and gave Spence(Who is overhyped but awesome) a very tough fight after dropping down 2 weight classes.
5) Canelo(not official)-First fight he definitely won while the 2nd a draw would be fair.

It takes two to tango.

[boxinggod101]

If you think about it, GGG's resume is really poor. His three best wins are:

1) Jacobs
2) Lemieux
3) Andy Lee

Really shallow for an elite fighter, therefore not worthy to be HOF.

Can you make the same thread next week. Just to be sure youre the first.

You held that ALT troll account since 2013. Cong**** man

[tokon]

Golovkin's resume is pretty weak but that's mainly a reflection on the level of the fighters in his division IMO.

Who were the "top tier" that avoided him? They didn't exactly have Hall of Fame resumes themselves, did they?