Comments Thread For: Lennox Lewis Backs Split, Not Flat Fee, For Joshua-Wilder Fight

[aboutfkntime]

I'm not trying to think like anyone. And I'm not betting over something that we are debating about. I'm telling you that Wilder won't take 40%. If he did that means that he is getting a percentage of something from the fight. Simple math means that he can ask for more than 40% based on what Parker was paid and what Fury Wilder did ppv wise...and the potential of what this fight could make.

ok, fair call..... but, no point in discussing a hypothetical

if Wilder refuses 40%, then he walked away from that fight

neither Parker nor Wilder are a draw..... no idea how Parker was worth 32.5%, and you will never convince me that Wilder is worth 40%..... not until he can sell out Wembley, or close to it

[aboutfkntime]

No they don't. Joshua Wlad did 90 mil revenue wise. I think that the Parker fight is 2nd and that generated 65-68 mil. And l can't keep on explaining why Wilder won't take 40%. I'm not trying to be a **** Dawg but Wilder isn't taking 40%. It doesn't make mathematical sense to.

Joshua/Wilder is a $100M fight

if Wilder walks away from 40% he is fkn nuts

Personally, I don't think he will..... because I don't think they will ever offer him 40%..... but if they do, he needs to take it

[Raggamuffin]

ok, fair call..... but, no point in discussing a hypothetical

if Wilder refuses 40%, then he walked away from that fight

neither Parker nor Wilder are a draw..... no idea how Parker was worth 32.5%, and you will never convince me that Wilder is worth 40%..... not until he can sell out Wembley, or close to it

This isnt about what you think Wilder deserves. Simple math dictates what Wilder would ask for if and when they negotiate the fight. But let me ask you this. Based on everything that you know...how much do you think Wilder and Joshua generates revenue wise and what should the pay split be. Just throw out some numbers. Use Wilder and Furys numbers and then compare them to Joshua fights with Parker and Wlad.

[Raggamuffin]

Joshua/Wilder is a $100M fight

if Wilder walks away from 40% he is fkn nuts

Personally, I don't think he will..... because I don't think they will ever offer him 40%..... but if they do, he needs to take it

So you believe that the fight can generate 100 mil? Go tell Hearn that. He's been screaming that it won't generate that much. I'm happy with anything Wilder takes...even if it was 40%. Because I'll be comfortable that Finkel and Haymon got him a great deal. But what you're saying and hoping for isn't what Hearn is saying.

[aboutfkntime]

This isnt about what you think Wilder deserves. Simple math dictates what Wilder would ask for if and when they negotiate the fight. But let me ask you this. Based on everything that you know...how much do you think Wilder and Joshua generates revenue wise and what should the pay split be. Just throw out some numbers. Use Wilder and Furys numbers and then compare them to Joshua fights with Parker and Wlad.

nope, simple math dictates that Joshua deserves the lion share..... because he sells out Wembley and can pull numbers that Wilder could only dream about

it is a $100M fight..... and Wilder deserves 35-40%

imho, he should accept 35%, 37.5%, or 40%

if he refuses 40%, then he walked away from that fight and fcuked his career

Joshua is avoiding Wilder because he will not offer Wilder 35-40%..... but if the situation changes and Wilder refuses 40% (which I don't think he will) then he clearly has no interest in that fight

Wilder accepted $15M..... so he would accept 40%, or even 37.5%, imho..... he would be nuts not to, because Joshua is a far bigger draw than Wilder and he brings much more to the table

[Ake-Dawg]

No they don't. Joshua Wlad did 90 mil revenue wise. I think that the Parker fight is 2nd and that generated 65-68 mil. And l can't keep on explaining why Wilder won't take 40%. I'm not trying to be a **** Dawg but Wilder isn't taking 40%. It doesn't make mathematical sense to.

You have shown no math! Explain the math Rag. How can Wilder make more money by not fighting Joshua? How will he force Joshua to fight him and give him 45%?

[aboutfkntime]

So you believe that the fight can generate 100 mil? Go tell Hearn that. He's been screaming that it won't generate that much. I'm happy with anything Wilder takes...even if it was 40%. Because I'll be comfortable that Finkel and Haymon got him a great deal. But what you're saying and hoping for isn't what Hearn is saying.

yep..... that is a $100M fight, or close to it

like I said yesterday..... Wilder should be happy as a pig in shlt accepting 40% to fight Joshua in the UK..... that would be the very best deal he could possibly hope for..... can't see it happening, because Joshua clearly does not want that fight

they low-balled Wilder to kill the fight, so why would they suddenly offer him 40%? lol

if he gets a sniff of 35%, he should jump on it..... because 35% is much better than the $15M he already accepted..... but I hope he gets a better deal 37.5-40%

makes no diff to me, it aint my money, I just want to see the fight

[gully7]

Revisionist history. Martin won the title by way of injury. Then took the highest bidder between Joshua and Wilder. Its documented. Parker was never viewed as a threat to Wilder or Joshua. Being young and hungry didn't translate into anything but snooze fests versus Ruiz and Fury. He isn't underrated...he just isn't top level.

Get the **** outta here with that load of nonsense.

Are you seriously saying Eddie Hearn out bid Haymon to get Martin? The same Haymon who is a financial powerhouse.

Parker's no scrub, the Ruiz, Hughie and Takam wins were MILES better than everything Wilder did to that point. Having a razor thin close fight with Whyte is better than going life and death with old man Ortiz who looked like **** against Scott and Dave ****ing Allen.

[Biolink]

A flat fee isn't gonna get it done. Seems like everyone knows this except Hearn drones

[Ake-Dawg]

Get the **** outta here with that load of nonsense.

Are you seriously saying Eddie Hearn out bid Haymon to get Martin? The same Haymon who is a financial powerhouse.

Parker's no scrub, the Ruiz, Hughie and Takam wins were MILES better than everything Wilder did to that point. Having a razor thin close fight with Whyte is better than going life and death with old man Ortiz who looked like **** against Scott and Dave ****ing Allen.

I gotta end this convo based on that statement alone. Just know, there was no "bid" for Martin. Wilder had a mando after Spzilka rather than negotiate or try and set up a unification Martin's manager took the Joshua fight citing Wilders mando and the desire to not take a stay busy fight. He jumped on the big check Hearn waved and flew to the UK. What champ fights the challenger on his home turf if it's not solely for the check.