Comments Thread For: Lennox Lewis Backs Split, Not Flat Fee, For Joshua-Wilder Fight

[SHAW ARUM DUVA]

Joshua and Wilder aren't fighting next alt.

I didn't say they were. I assume Wilder is fighting Fury next.

Joshua is scared. What you posted is a " I love Joshua and the fight will be in the UK" thought.

Hearn might be scared. Finkel might be scared. Doubt Joshua or Wilder are scared.

I have no idea if they'll fight and I don't care where they fight as I believe the fight would end in a knockout regardless of who wins.

[aboutfkntime]

You can’t have it both ways. You can’t say the only relevant factor is what wilder brings to the table and what he can generate then say “oh yeah it doesn’t matter what he made in the fury fight that has no bearing on what he should be paid” how else are we supposed to judge what it is a fighter generates if we don’t use previous purses. You’re just pulling numbers out of your ass. If it doesn’t matter what wilder made against fury why does it matter what Parker gets?

It’s one or the other. Deep down you know the flat fee offer wasn’t that bad if its more than he makes anywhere else. Including what was deemed a successful ppv. Like I said he won’t make enough that the flat fee offer looks ridiculous in comparison.

Anyway this is pointless because from October he’s been offered a split so that should answer your questions. So answer me this he’s got the offer he wants why doesn’t he take the fight?


https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.s...anthony-joshua

FACT: Wilder got 50% in his last fight

FACT: Joshua only offered Wilder a flat-fee

FACT: that flat-fee offer was shlt !!

see here for proof.....

"At the moment I think a split of 65-35 in AJ’s favor is fair"
https://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-if...-50-50--133005

it is amusing that you NEED to believe that OBVIOUS low-ball was a genuine offer lol

[aboutfkntime]

As much as I have mad respect for you Bro; However, I must vehemently disagree with you. That number is too low. It's either 40 percent or no deal. If Parker is worth at least 32 percent of the purse split, coming from an unknown country then Wilder is worthy of at least 8 percentage points higher than that number coming from a Super Power and the mecca of boxing which is in America.

he is worth somewhere between 35 - 40%

hopefully he gets 40%

if he turns down 40%, then he walked away from that fight

[aboutfkntime]

If Parker got 32%, how did he negotiate that? He didn't do anything close to what Wilder has done at the time and Wilder only deserves 35-37%!!!??? Joshua wanted Martin's title and he paid for it, and he paid Parker for his title regardless of how people feel about me saying this. If he wants Wilder's title, he will have to pay extra. Finkel and Haymon know this.

if they are thinking like you, they will NEVER get that fight

Wilder accepted $15M..... so, I know they are not thinking like you

like I said, I am willing to bet they don't get more than 40%

[Raggamuffin]

No one disputes that. However you're not translating that into why it means 40% of $100M+ in purse is foolish. Who you beat has little to do with revenue drawing power. Joshua is evidence of that.

Joshua is a champ just like Wilder. Calling him "the" champ is just conjecture and personal opinion. If Joshua went to the US first, there is a strong argument that the split is 50-50 as a lot of the revenue will be US revenue. But he isn't going to do that! So it's either no fight or a UK fight unfortunately.

No one disputes that. However you're not translating that into why it means 40% of $100M+ in purse is foolish. Who you beat has little to do with revenue drawing power. Joshua is evidence of that.

Joshua is a champ just like Wilder. Calling him "the" champ is just conjecture and personal opinion. If Joshua went to the US first, there is a strong argument that the split is 50-50 as a lot of the revenue will be US revenue. But he isn't going to do that! So it's either no fight or a UK fight unfortunately.

This isn't about what Joshua does on the regular. His biggest fight and ppv was against Wlad. They split 30 mil and the revenue for the fight was close to 90 mil.
I don't have to translate anything into 40%. I'm telling you that when you compare $75.00 a pop ppv wise at over 325k buys with the other name fighter Fury...he can ask for more than 40% based on the prediction of the total revenue for a Wilder Joshua fight.

If they raise the average price of seats, ringside seats and ppv price, Wilder will be advised by Haymon and Finkel to take nothing less than 45 %. And all I'm saying is that if he is stonewalled at 40% nothing more then there will be no fight...at least not in the UK.

[Raggamuffin]

if they are thinking like you, they will NEVER get that fight

Wilder accepted $15M..... so, I know they are not thinking like you

like I said, I am willing to bet they don't get more than 40%

I'm not trying to think like anyone. And I'm not betting over something that we are debating about. I'm telling you that Wilder won't take 40%. If he did that means that he is getting a percentage of something from the fight. Simple math means that he can ask for more than 40% based on what Parker was paid and what Fury Wilder did ppv wise...and the potential of what this fight could make.

[Ake-Dawg]

This isn't about what Joshua does on the regular. His biggest fight and ppv was against Wlad. They split 30 mil and the revenue for the fight was close to 90 mil.
I don't have to translate anything into 40%. I'm telling you that when you compare $75.00 a pop ppv wise at over 325k buys with the other name fighter Fury...he can ask for more than 40% based on the prediction of the total revenue for a Wilder Joshua fight.

If they raise the average price of seats, ringside seats and ppv price, Wilder will be advised by Haymon and Finkel to take nothing less than 45 %. And all I'm saying is that if he is stonewalled at 40% nothing more then there will be no fight...at least not in the UK.

I think the Joshua fights today make more than the Klitschko fight did.

Of course they will raise ticket prices and the ppv price. I'm not certain why that should equate to a higher percentage for Wilder.

[gully7]

Exactly what hard work was exerted to buy the IBF and WBO belt? Martin and Parker...come on.

Also, as a fan why do you care if Wilder gets more than 35%?

People can look back and see Martin was an easy fight but at the time people in boxing were picking Martin and saying it was too soon for AJ, Fury bet on Martin.

Why didn't Wilder fight Martin? They had the same promoter who had/has more money than sense. Unifications take precedent over mandatories. He NEVER went after Martin.


AJ picked up another belt (WBA) fighting Wlad. He only had 18 fights up until this point and only set foot in a boxing ring 8 years before. This against an obsessed and motivated Wlad desperate to regain his titles. This fight was too soon for AJ but he took his chance. Again, another man Wilder never wanted to fight.


Then unified and got the WBO against Parker, an undefeated young hungry champion. Somebody who is now underrated because he lost to Whyte. Parker wouldn't have much trouble with old man Ortiz.

[Ake-Dawg]

People can look back and see Martin was an easy fight but at the time people in boxing were picking Martin and saying it was too soon for AJ, Fury bet on Martin.

Why didn't Wilder fight Martin? They had the same promoter who had/has more money than sense. Unifications take precedent over mandatories. He NEVER went after Martin.


AJ picked up another belt (WBA) fighting Wlad. He only had 18 fights up until this point and only set foot in a boxing ring 8 years before. This against an obsessed and motivated Wlad desperate to regain his titles. This fight was too soon for AJ but he took his chance. Again, another man Wilder never wanted to fight.


Then unified and got the WBO against Parker, an undefeated young hungry champion. Somebody who is now underrated because he lost to Whyte. Parker wouldn't have much trouble with old man Ortiz.

Revisionist history. Martin won the title by way of injury. Then took the highest bidder between Joshua and Wilder. Its documented. Parker was never viewed as a threat to Wilder or Joshua. Being young and hungry didn't translate into anything but snooze fests versus Ruiz and Fury. He isn't underrated...he just isn't top level.

[Raggamuffin]

I think the Joshua fights today make more than the Klitschko fight did.

Of course they will raise ticket prices and the ppv price. I'm not certain why that should equate to a higher percentage for Wilder.

No they don't. Joshua Wlad did 90 mil revenue wise. I think that the Parker fight is 2nd and that generated 65-68 mil. And l can't keep on explaining why Wilder won't take 40%. I'm not trying to be a **** Dawg but Wilder isn't taking 40%. It doesn't make mathematical sense to.