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  • champion4ever
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    #81
    Originally posted by PotentialToast
    If AJ wants to keep all his belts, he has to take care of mandatories. The has gone unification, mandatory, unification, mandatory in his last 4 fights. If it wasn't for AJ, Wilder wouldn't come close to getting an undisputed fight.
    That is not entirely correct because undisputed trumps mandatory challenges and defenses.

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    • kafkod
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      #82
      Originally posted by champion4ever
      Well that's because he was both hurt and disappointed that he didn't get the opportunity to challenge Joshua the last time. However, time heals all wounds and I strongly believe that if Joshua is indeed, sincere then Deontay will be more than willing to give him a second chance.
      Hurt and disappointed? Do me a fkn favour mate! What are we talking about here, a grown man and a professional fighter, or a jilted schoolgirl?

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        #83
        Originally posted by kafkod
        Hurt and disappointed? Do me a fkn favour mate! What are we talking about here, a grown man and a professional fighter, or a jilted schoolgirl?
        A human being who is made out of flesh and blood with a soul who feels emotions just like you and myself. It's not easy to forgive a betrayal. Moreover it's not easy to forgive and let bygones be bygones after you feel that someone has badly wronged and hurt you. That is very difficult to do and it's going to take some time to heal from it. One can remove the hurt but the scar remains. In addition, it's going to be very hard for Wilder to trust Joshua and Hearn again and he may never will after their betrayal of him.

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        • PotentialToast
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          #84
          I can see Fury taking 6 months off. Poor lad has just been in camp for 12 months and shifted 8 stone. Can't see Wilder wanting to risk everything for Brazealle so I'd be suprised if AJ v Wilder doesn't happen in April. Curve ball would be Hearn signing Fury for DAZN.

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            #85
            Originally posted by champion4ever
            That is not entirely correct because undisputed trumps mandatory challenges and defenses.
            That requires Wilder wanting to fight AJ. He didn't so Joshua had to deal with Povetkin. Whyte / Usyk before September unless Wilder steps up.

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              #86
              Originally posted by champion4ever
              A human being who is made out of flesh and blood with a soul who feels emotions just like you and myself. It's not easy to forgive a betrayal. Moreover it's not easy to forgive and let bygones be bygones after you feel that someone has badly wronged and hurt you. That is very difficult to do and it's going to take some time to heal from it. One can remove the hurt but the scar remains. In addition, it's going to be very hard for Wilder to trust Joshua and Hearn again and he may never will after their betrayal of him.
              Save your tears for somebody who deserves them, not a sub-human half-wit who brags about leaving overmatched scrubs twitching on the canvas, says he wants to look into a child's eyes and tell him, "I put your daddy into a coma" and that he wants a body on his record ... then cries, makes ******ed excuses, and expects everybody to feel sorry for him when a cowardly cherry pick goes wrong, or he can't make a fortune from another man's labour.

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                #87
                Originally posted by PotentialToast
                I can see Fury taking 6 months off. Poor lad has just been in camp for 12 months and shifted 8 stone. Can't see Wilder wanting to risk everything for Brazealle so I'd be suprised if AJ v Wilder doesn't happen in April. Curve ball would be Hearn signing Fury for DAZN.
                Fury needs a break to rest and let his mind and body recover from what he's put them through this year.

                Wilder needs to stop crying and looking for sympathy, step up to AJ and get what's coming to him.

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                  #88
                  You are making it out to be a MUCH BIGGER mistake then it is. Wilder only needed to win 3 rounds to get a DRAW!!!

                  Geeeeez us you make it seem like the biggest miscalculation ever. The first two rounds were ehhhh so they could have gone either way. That means out of the remaining 8(excluding the 2 knockdown rounds) Wilder only had to win ONE for a draw.

                  That's why it is amusing to Me when people say ROBBERY!!!

                  Yes Fury won more rounds but he was knocked down TWICE!!!

                  That is the equivalent of wining 4 rounds right there!!!

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by kafkod
                    Save your tears for somebody who deserves them, not a sub-human half-wit who brags about leaving overmatched scrubs twitching on the canvas, says he wants to look into a child's eyes and tell him, "I put your daddy into a coma" and that he wants a body on his record ... then cries, makes ******ed excuses, and expects everybody to feel sorry for him when a cowardly cherry pick goes wrong, or he can't make a fortune from another man's labour.
                    He is still human. He is just as human as you and me. He is nothing more or less. If someone has harmed or injured him in anyway, he will hurt just like you and I would hurt.

                    He had his sights all set on the Joshua fight just to have it pulled out from under him at the eleventh hour due to some mandatory challenge of AJ's; Especially after agreeing to all of Anthony Joshua's terms. It was a huge blow to both his psyche and ego.

                    However, give him some time though. He'll be just fine. Wilder is making these fights for the fans and his legacy. Once again I reiterate, he wants to be measured, remembered and considered one of the greatest of his era among his peers and contemporaries.

                    So in short, I am more than confident that we will get the Joshua/Wilder fight soon; Even as early as next Spring.

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                    • FreezeIzGawd
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                      #90
                      Look it's AJs fault.

                      POINT BLANK!

                      You can sugarcoat anything but the truth is they were screaming A side! A SIDE! and got left behind. It was a gamble and they LOST!!!

                      No one cares about titles if they don't see you fight.

                      Joe Calzaghe retired undefeated with wins over Jeff Lacy, B-Hop, and Roy Jones so why isn't he even slightly mentioned among the all time greats?

                      Simple.

                      He didn't fight outside of Europe. Period.

                      AJ can keep whooping bums in soccer stadiums and make a lot of money doing it BUT he will NEVER be considered the best because he is a CORNBALL who ran from his 2 top competitors

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