Who Wins: Prime Floyd vs Prime Mosley at 140

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  • GunStar
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    #41
    Mosley's speed was never on the level of PBF. Mosley fought only bums when he was dominating at 135.

    PBF beats Mosley 9 out of 10 times at 135.

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    • Smokin'
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      #42
      I'm saying those guys are huge and those are the only fights where he really got hit alot. He was outgunned because Winky/Forrest were much taller then him and had crazy jabs.

      Floyd would stick and move Mosley all night. Just like he did with Castillo, right? LOL. Floyd didn't have the power to hurt a flea at 140, not to mention a tough, strong, HUNGRY fighter who can dish it and take it.

      No way Floyd beats prime Mosley.

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      • DLT
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        #43
        Originally posted by Smokin'
        LOL, DLT you act like Shane Mosley is some scrub who gets hit by punch after punch. He's been hit alot of times vs. Forrest (6'1'' welterweight who had one of the best jabs in the business and a clinical uppercut/right hand) and Wright (best jab in the business, he proved his worth vs a big, strong, hungry Jermain Taylor).

        DLT, I don't think you realize how big of an issue size is in boxing. Mayweather was a little wimp compared to Mosley. Mosley can match him speed for speed and can punch more. He also can bull him, rough him up and Mayweather wouldn't be able to fend off Mosley.

        This is a mismatch. It's funny because Mosley fought an awesome fight vs. DLH the first time at PRIME (keyword ---prime) DLH's best weight and MOVING UP from 135 to 147.
        What are you talking about? Vernon dropped him twice and had him hurt and actually "screaming" a bunch of times. Winky also pushed him around and shook him alot. I wasnt saying anything like Shane has a weak chin, anyway.

        You say size is a issue but its not like Floyd didnt have solid size at 140. Mosley wouldve been bigger ofcourse but thats not the end all of a fight, e****ally when your talking about a great fighter.

        You talk about Mosley beating a prime Oscar but its not like Oscar was the greatest fighter ever. Oscar was very good but he lost to Tito. Even if you think he really beat Tito, you could easily argue that he lost to Quartey and everyone thought he lost to a ageing Sweet Pea. A couple of fights later he was killed by Forrest and went 6 straight fights without getting a real win.

        Im not acting like Shane is a scrub. How can I act like that when I think Floyd was a beast at 140 and I still said that he may only win by Split Decision. I think you are the one who is acting like Floyd is a scrub. I said nothing bad about Shane like you just said about Floyd.

        Floyd wouldve been a little wimp compared to Shane? I think you underrate Floyd's boxing ability and defense way too much if you think Shane will just run through Floyd. If you think he will just run through Floyd then you must think he was the greatest fighter ever at those weights. Shane was awesome but he still beat up on all cupcakes until he fought Oscar and he was killed by Forrest. To say that Floyd wouldve beat Shane is not unreasonable.

        If you say Shane would win then I can understand that but anyone on here who says that Shane will just run through him and KO him like he did some other guys who arent half as good as Floyd is a joke.

        All that stick and move stuff from Floyd is crap and Im sick of guys saying that. Now that he has fully converted to his Uncle's style he will never fight like that again unless he is fighting somone much bigger then him. Im telling everyone now that he wont stick and move against Margarito and he wont do it if he fights Shane right now, let alone at 140 where Shane wouldnt be much bigger then him. He may box some but no way he fights like he did against Castillo anytime after the N'Dou fight and thats including if he ever fought Castillo again
        Last edited by DLT; 07-07-2006, 01:17 AM.

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        • six85
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          #44
          Either way, I'm a fan of both boxers. I would still like to see them fight each other right now. IMO, PBF should be Mosley's last bout. I'd rather pay to see that match than PBF vs. Margarito...

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          • Zab Super Judah
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            #45
            mosley had a insane punch...at the lower weights

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              #46
              Originally posted by Smokin'
              I'm saying those guys are huge and those are the only fights where he really got hit alot. He was outgunned because Winky/Forrest were much taller then him and had crazy jabs.

              Floyd would stick and move Mosley all night. Just like he did with Castillo, right? LOL. Floyd didn't have the power to hurt a flea at 140, not to mention a tough, strong, HUNGRY fighter who can dish it and take it.

              No way Floyd beats prime Mosley.
              Seriously.
              Floyd has no power at 140, he didnt even phase Gatti with his shots or stop Brussles or drop Corley twice.

              Like he did with Chavez, and like he did with Castillo the second fight.

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              • Smokin'
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                #47
                Mosley is a different beast. Gatti was shot to pieces and a human punching bag, something that ANYONE (even C class bums) can hit. Floyd obviously is a worldclass boxer but Gatti was a human punching bag. Corley was a small 140 pounder and the same goes for Brusseles.

                Chavez was a non stop pressure fighter but Mosley was stronger, faster, better foot speed, got hit less, more power, bigger, almost as fast, etc etc..he had that American style that would give Floyd FITS.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Smokin'
                  Mosley is a different beast. Gatti was shot to pieces and a human punching bag, something that ANYONE (even C class bums) can hit. Floyd obviously is a worldclass boxer but Gatti was a human punching bag. Corley was a small 140 pounder and the same goes for Brusseles.

                  Chavez was a non stop pressure fighter but Mosley was stronger, faster, better foot speed, got hit less, more power, bigger, almost as fast, etc etc..he had that American style that would give Floyd FITS.
                  Those guys were still 10x better then anyone Mosley fought until Oscar. Sugar basicaly got his name for beating up on cupcakes and now most say that he never warranted the name Sugar.

                  Mosley was a beast and wouldve still beat alot of great fighters anyway but all Im saying is that people get too caught up in guys like him because they are pure offensive monsters but pretty much all fighters like him end up losing because they are not complete fighters and you saw that happened to him later on.

                  He will always look much better then anyone else against a average boxer but when he fights a elite guy then his flaws can be exposed while Floyd has a better chance of adjusting because he can do more things. Shane was a monster but you cant argue that he wasnt one demensional and thats something that Floyd isnt.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Smokin'
                    Mosley is a different beast. Gatti was shot to pieces and a human punching bag, something that ANYONE (even C class bums) can hit. Floyd obviously is a worldclass boxer but Gatti was a human punching bag. Corley was a small 140 pounder and the same goes for Brusseles.

                    Chavez was a non stop pressure fighter but Mosley was stronger, faster, better foot speed, got hit less, more power, bigger, almost as fast, etc etc..he had that American style that would give Floyd FITS.
                    You are aware you said mosley was faster and almost as fast in the same sentence, right?

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                    • DLT
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                      #50
                      Lets say that they are even in speed, skill, heart, and chin. Mosley then has the advantage in size, power, and strength. Floyd's advantages are he is easily better then Shane at defense and he is the supereior technical boxer. Floyd also had pop too at 140

                      I think I rather have Floyds strengths over Shanes. Now lets go to that all important "intangibles" catagory. This one to me isnt even close. Floyd has shown to be the far more smarter boxer, has shown the far better ability to adjust during a fight, and has the better trainer.

                      I think its not all that impossible to see Floyd coming out on top based on those things.

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