Is Canelo deserving of “Legend” status at 28?

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  • AKAcronym
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    #31
    Originally posted by KingHippo
    Is that even a ****ing question lol
    Answer it.

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    • KingHippo
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      #32
      Originally posted by AKAcronym
      Answer it.
      I'm not trying to step into your alternate reality buddy. I'm fine with the real world.

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      • KillaMane26
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        #33
        Most if not all his biggest wins are controversial tho....

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        • ELPacman
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          #34
          I don't think he's legendary at all yet. He hasn't had a signature win that makes legends. You can say GGG wins but they were close and not dominant enough to make it a legendary performance. I'd ask for KO win for that.

          People being hard on him with Mayweather however are wrong. Mayweather took the fight when Canelo was green as f**k. The dude had zero experience to take on Mayweather and Jr. knew that. He also knew that by getting Canelo who brings in the $$$ during Mexican PPV time and lacked experience, it was the perfect opponent for him. Business man as usual.

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          • NearHypnos
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            #35
            Originally posted by _original_
            Lol stop man, neither guy is Hall of Famer. I love Cotto but lost to the best fighters he faced besides Mosley and peg legged Martinez.
            He’s a four weight world champ and technically the lineal 160 pound champ in a “come back” of sorts.


            People think HOF means atg but lesser fighters get into the hof than Cotto and GGG.

            People think just winning a title in only one division somehow makes it impossible and that’s not true at all. It can also often be a popularity contest.

            Cotto is 4 weight division champ, lineal 160 towards the end of his career...was a huge name..AND Puerto Rican.

            Cotto is def getting in. Easy.

            GGG will too. A “record breaking” run in one of the most prestigious divisions, an amateur standout, p4p caliber. He’ll get in. Much lesser fighters do.

            In fact, wasn’t Winky Wright just recently admitted? Dude only ever won belts at 54 iirc.

            Cotto and GGG will get in whether we like it or not.

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            • abracada
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              #36
              Originally posted by Eastlos
              So Michael Buffer introduced Canelo as “El Legendario Campion Mundial” which translates to “The Legendary World Champion” at the start of the Rocky Fielding fight. At 28 yrs old I definitely see Canelo as a Hall of Famer already but a legend probably not yet. Although, Canelo is a 3 Division world champion and has fought 5 fights against 4 HOF’s (Mayweather, Mosley, Cotto, GGGx2) I can’t put him in JCC Sr. or Salvador Sanchez legendary level. If Canelo where to conquer the 168 lbs division either with W’s against the likes of Callum Smith, David Benavidez or even to a lesser extend Zurdo then Canelo should be considered the legendary world champion, thoughts?
              Legend, not yet. But he is getting there

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              • justhititclose
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                #37
                Originally posted by HitmanTommy
                A lot of people will refuse to admit it, but being schooled by the severely undersized Mayweather is enough to keep him out of the top 15 all time, no matter what he does from here on out.
                As far as I'm concerned, Canelo has done nothing yet to warrant HOF. His loss to Floyd was absurd. Not even competitive. Floyd is known for brittle hands, holding and running away. Outside of McGregor fight, that was stopped, (exhaustion) rather than hurt, which is another thread by itself, he hasn't knocked out anyone, don't count the cheap shot "one/two" punch combination when Ortiz wasn't looking as a legit knock out. Canelo much younger, much bigger should have walked Floyd down, and wailed away at him. Floyd was 40 Canelo 23 at the time. Canelo with his sheer size should have made Floyd fight him off 90 seconds of each round. Wear him down and then put him away. Nothing Floyd threw should have kept Canelo at bay. Unless Floyd paid him off. That's purely conjecture on my part. But this is boxing we are talking about. So I wouldn't put it past Floyd. Money could say, a loss to me would not blemish your record. I'm the self proclaimed GOAT and you are still learning. So take and extra amount X dollars and call it good. Your time will come. Money makes his own rules, forearms across opponents face and neck when on the clinch, cheap shots, and don't forget he didn't even try to make weight, nor put up any excuse when he paid Dinamita $50,000 for not making weight for their fight. He just smiles, and hands over $50K. So he fought Dinamita at much bigger weight than he should have. GOAT? HAH! Smartest boxer, best boxer, self promoter, wife beater, Check! Greatest of all time? NOT!! Ill give Canelo props for a great fight with GGG. He should have fought like that against Money. Then I'd say yeah he is well on his way. So in my eyes, Canelo has a lot to prove yet if I am to give him the nod at HOF consideration.

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                • justhititclose
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                  #38
                  Green yes, but that's why he has handlers, corner man, trainer behind him. They should have told him, you are 17 years younger, bigger, stronger, and Money has no knock out punch. Bull rush him to a corner, make Money work 90 seconds of every round. We all know he can't knock anyone out, take two punches or 3 if you have to, but deliver 10 in return! May doesn't throw many punches from a distance. But if you crowd him into a corner, and wail away at him, you will connect and wear him down. The guy's in shape but he can't out muscle a bigger guy! If Canelo leaned on May the whole time, while throwing punches from all angles, it would have at least been a FIGHT! Instead it was a sniper from a tower, shooting at boots on the ground. No contest. ****** fight plan. Green I agree. But that's why he had a corner to advise him. Should have been a competitive fight but instead it was showcase for Mayweather.

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                  • From Russia
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                    #39
                    If you have watched all his big fights, you would have noticed that he always got a "win" in very close, even controversial matches. He got too much help from outside of the ring to call him "legend". At least for me...

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                    • tatot
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by HarvardBlue
                      How could Canelo be a legend if his biggest wins were all controversial?

                      Not to mention the Mayweather schooling.
                      Spot on����. Aside from one sided lose to Floyd,Canelo should have lost to GGG and Lara.

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