Comments Thread For: One Fight In, Is Canelo's Contract Already Problem For DAZN?

[Bardamu]

Im pretty sure they are viewing Canelo as a loss leader, they are willing to lose money on the deal, but are banking on him bringing in enough subscribers that they spread the world and it will all end up being profitable through the future.

I don't buy that. If Canelo helps get DAZN a million U.S. subscribers, that would be good money. A million times $120 for a year is $120 million per year. I believe DAZN is honestly trying to make this work.

I don't get the huge money to Hearn though. DAZN shoulda treated Matchroom the same as they did Golden Boy. Give Joshua a huge guaranteed contract, and throw a little extra to Hearn to air his second rate fights.

Honestly, DAZN shoulda thrown a billion dollars at PBC instead of Matchroom. Maybe Hearn gets them their money's worth in Europe, but not many in the U.S. are paying $10 a month to watch Andrade vs. no-name, Jessie Vargas vs. whoever, and Khan and Brook. People in North America will pay $10 a month to watch Canelo, and they would pay $10 a month to watch all PBC fights. Keep Canelo, Joshua, and all of PBC and they could charge $15 or $20 a month and every boxing fan who could possibly afford it would have a DAZN subscription.

[MasterPlan]

I don't buy that. If Canelo helps get DAZN a million U.S. subscribers, that would be good money. A million times $120 for a year is $120 million per year. I believe DAZN is honestly trying to make this work.

I don't get the huge money to Hearn though. DAZN shoulda treated Matchroom the same as they did Golden Boy. Give Joshua a huge guaranteed contract, and throw a little extra to Hearn to air his second rate fights.

Honestly, DAZN shoulda thrown a billion dollars at PBC instead of Matchroom. Maybe Hearn gets them their money's worth in Europe, but not many in the U.S. are paying $10 a month to watch Andrade vs. no-name, Jessie Vargas vs. whoever, and Khan and Brook. People in North America will pay $10 a month to watch Canelo, and they would pay $10 a month to watch all PBC fights. Keep Canelo, Joshua, and all of PBC and they could charge $15 or $20 a month and every boxing fan who could possibly afford it would have a DAZN subscription.

DAZN originally went after PBC fighters. Charlo's, Mikey, Spence, Broner, Easter, Davis, Wilder, ect.
Matchroom USA. They wanted US Boxers to start this thing out. Minus Bud, PBC has the top talent in the USA. Yes they got Canelo but he's not even American, lol. And neither is GGG who they're goin after now.

So Andrade, Vargas and Miller are thier top US names to market to US consumers.

[Scipio2009]

I think Canelo fights Andrade @ 160, or Lemieux at 168! I would think the WBC would do whatever Canelo asks! In fact, Jacobs vs. Charlo would actually help them out, because Canelo remains champ! I really am not concerned with Canelo, I just want Jacobs vs. Charlo at the Barclay's!

I think you're overstating the sway that Canelo has with the WBC. Unification trumps mandatory, but you're kidding yourself imo if you believe that the WBC is going to sit back and let Canelo stall them out with a second bull**** fight, after their top challenger let the money fights for the WBC happen without much issue.

Jermall Charlo isn't going to jump through the hoops of the WBC title route, wait his turn, and then simply abandoned that now to fight Daniel Jacobs. Charlo is getting that WBC shot first

[Bardamu]

DAZN originally went after PBC fighters. Charlo's, Mikey, Spence, Broner, Easter, Davis, Wilder, ect.
Matchroom USA. They wanted US Boxers to start this thing out. Minus Bud, PBC has the top talent in the USA. Yes they got Canelo but he's not even American, lol. And neither is GGG who they're goin after now.

So Andrade, Vargas and Miller are thier top US names to market to US consumers.

But why did they have Hearn try to get them? Why the heck did DAZN pay Hearn to make Matchroom USA, instead of just going straight to Haymon? If DAZN wanted the PBC fighters, then DAZN would have tried to get a deal with PBC instead of Matchroom.

[Boxingfanatic75]

Your opinion of my boxing IQ is irrelevant.... The FACT is when he's stepped up to fight elite opposition he's either been completely exposed or the decision was debatable FACTS. So he'll keep fighting scrubs that you've never heard of or names that he'll easily beat FACTS. Nothing about the moves he's made for his career up to this point tells me any different.

And clowns like you that defend these clown ass boxers that don't want to fight the elite comp once they reach the top is why all the f@#king politics and strategy in boxing goes on today. They know they can make ***** fights like cinnamon/fielding and pu$$ies like you will lap it up FACTS.

F@$k outta here.

I love when someone pulls out the FACTS card in all caps as if that provides any credence whatsoever to their argument. And yes your boxing IQ is pretty bad. Here let me pepper you with some actual facts and not your estrogen emotion.

“He is a multiple-time world champion in two weight classes, having held the unified WBA (Super), WBC, Ring magazine and lineal middleweight titles since September 2018. Previously he held the WBA (Unified), WBC and Ring light middleweight titles between 2011 and 2013; the WBC, Ring and lineal middleweight titles between 2015 and 2018, and the WBO light middleweight title from 2016 to 2017.”

According to you he fought all scrubs to get there. Lol. But hey let’s not let those pesky little facts get in the way of a good ol emotional debate eh? Let’s go a little further into the fact trove shall we? Utilizing your logic Ali fought scrubs because he faced many that gave him fits but also lost to some. That’s very logical I see what you are saying. Boxer struggles against opponent but wins = said boxer fighting scrubs....got it....

Here is some more for you
Fought Trout who spent his entire career at light MW and was undefeated. Won UD. Trout then goes on to fight Lara (went the distance) fought KO man Charlo (went the distance) fought the other charlo (went the distance) but hey he’s a scrub

Canelo goes the distance with the p4p King that no one has beat and loses. Oh that’s right Mayweather is a scrub too.

Comes back beats Lara (according to you another scrub). KOs Kirkland who at that time was 33-1 with 28 KOs (another scrub according to you), beats title holder and HOF boxer Cotto (another scrub according to you), and finally dethrones P4P King pin GGG (another scrub according to you).

Here endeth your boxing lesson now go read some books

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By Keith Idec - NEW YORK When DAZN boss John Skipper announced two months ago that the company had signed Canelo Alvarez to a game-changing, five-year, 11-fight contract, virtually everyone focused on how much it's worth. Promoter Oscar De La Hoya and DAZN executives loved attaching that headline-making number, $365 million, to the deal. That gaudy figure obviously is dependent upon...
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Very small profit or a loss to Dazn

[JWHardin]

Based on What? definitely not level of competition. SO what do you base that statement on that Andrade is better than Trout or Lara?

Based on talent. He is 4 inches taller than Lara, plus a southpaw, which adds to the difficulty fighting him. He has good power in both hands as well. Virgil Hunter said in addition to his physical attributes and being a southpaw, he has better skills than Lara having worked with them both.

Andrade has had a poorly managed career up to this point, but I think he is better than most think. There is a reason Canelo didn't fight him when he had a belt at 154, and as soon as he was stripped, he jumped at the chance to fight the guy that got Andrade's belt.

[JWHardin]

Because Andrade is as known and as big a draw as a wet sponge.

Jacobs and Charlo sure aren't superstars bringing all kinds of money, but both bring a heck of a lot more to the table than Andrade does.

Andrade has one of the belts now, so you can't ignore that. Chicken cheater Saunders robbed him from getting his name out some more. I'd love to see him vs GGG, Charlo, or Jacobs also. Make em fight! Enough of the damn dancing around it.

[Bronx2245]

I think you're overstating the sway that Canelo has with the WBC. Unification trumps mandatory, but you're kidding yourself imo if you believe that the WBC is going to sit back and let Canelo stall them out with a second bull**** fight, after their top challenger let the money fights for the WBC happen without much issue.

Jermall Charlo isn't going to jump through the hoops of the WBC title route, wait his turn, and then simply abandoned that now to fight Daniel Jacobs. Charlo is getting that WBC shot first

Canelo vs. Andrade in May, Jacobs vs. Charlo next Spring, winners face each other in the fall! That's my vision!

[Bad Bart]

I have a feeling something not add up here. Also I heard and read that people game DAZN, paying one month and then cancel, when another event appear they pay another month and then cancel again because they don't chain you with a contract. I don't know If this apply to all the current countries who have the DAZN service. paying and canceling all the time is not consistent vs one who have DAZN the entire year.

Yeah, that's a great point. How can they possibly plan and budget when the amount of subscribers is fluctuating so drastically.