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  • Mexican_Puppet
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    #91
    Originally posted by chrisJS
    I think Chavez is great BUT he did get beaten up by Randall and then quit in a re-match and got a gift BS technical decision. He did get slapped around by Whitaker and was given a gift robbery against Taylor with 2 seconds left in a fight he was way behind.

    He also won very arguable decisions with LaPorte (who was faded) and Lockridge. He never beat a great fighter and the two best dudes he beat Rosario (was already ruining his life with drugs) and Camacho (already about 6-7 years past his best when he changed for the worst after Rosario) were good but far from great.

    Chavez is great but gets overrated somewhat by his legions of worshipers.
    You don't sh.it about this

    So, Rosario was ruining his life with drugs but not Chávez at the time when he fought against Withaker and Randall.

    A robbery against Taylor, dude was destroyed, like a boxer and his life, look what happened with Stevenson, read the fu cking rules of this sport.

    You don't know SH.it about score a fight. Chávez won those fights against Laporte and Lockridge.

    Against Withaker he fought 15 pounds up of his first división.

    And was out of prime. But yeah ..

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    • OCPancho
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      #92
      Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet
      You don't know sh.it about boxing, man, really.

      Study the context of the fights.

      Head movement, feints, thats bending.
      What don't you learn English first ?

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      • chrisJS
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        #93
        Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet
        You don't sh.it about this

        So, Rosario was ruining his life with drugs but not Chávez at the time when he fought against Withaker and Randall.

        A robbery against Taylor, dude was destroyed, like a boxer and his life, look what happened with Stevenson, read the fu cking rules of this sport.

        You don't know SH.it about score a fight. Chávez won those fights against Laporte and Lockridge.

        Against Withaker he fought 15 pounds up of his first división.

        And was out of prime. But yeah ..
        Chavez was up 15 pounds yes and Whitaker was up 10 and they are the same age and you don't think Whitaker was ruining his life? He was a ****ing junkie for crying out loud.

        I didn't say I scored them against Chavez I said they were arguable and that's the consensus. Very close fights that if Chavez was, say, white you'd have said he lost or if he wasn't Mexican and LaPorte and Lockridge were Mexican you'd say they were robberies.

        Yes, Taylor was robbed. He led by too large a margin and with 2 seconds left he wouldn't take another punch so yes he got robbed. He got a beating but he won the boxing match.

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          #94
          Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet
          You don't sh.it about this

          So, Rosario was ruining his life with drugs but not Chávez at the time when he fought against Withaker and Randall.

          A robbery against Taylor, dude was destroyed, like a boxer and his life, look what happened with Stevenson, read the fu cking rules of this sport.

          You don't know SH.it about score a fight. Chávez won those fights against Laporte and Lockridge.

          Against Withaker he fought 15 pounds up of his first división.

          And was out of prime. But yeah ..
          You need to read the rules of the sport as well.

          15 lbs up from his first division ?
          LOL
          Whittaker was barely 132 when he debuted. He did not have to cut down weight.
          That only works as your excuse but not for the other guys?

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            #95
            Originally posted by chrisJS
            Chavez was up 15 pounds yes and Whitaker was up 10 and they are the same age and you don't think Whitaker was ruining his life? He was a ****ing junkie for crying out loud.

            I didn't say I scored them against Chavez I said they were arguable and that's the consensus. Very close fights that if Chavez was, say, white you'd have said he lost or if he wasn't Mexican and LaPorte and Lockridge were Mexican you'd say they were robberies.

            Yes, Taylor was robbed. He led by too large a margin and with 2 seconds left he wouldn't take another punch so yes he got robbed. He got a beating but he won the boxing match.
            Wait, Richard Steele couldn't see the red corner lights blinking.
            If he asked MT to come walk to him, the fight would have been over .

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              #96
              Originally posted by chrisJS
              Chavez was up 15 pounds yes and Whitaker was up 10 and they are the same age and you don't think Whitaker was ruining his life? He was a ****ing junkie for crying out loud.

              I didn't say I scored them against Chavez I said they were arguable and that's the consensus. Very close fights that if Chavez was, say, white you'd have said he lost or if he wasn't Mexican and LaPorte and Lockridge were Mexican you'd say they were robberies.

              Yes, Taylor was robbed. He led by too large a margin and with 2 seconds left he wouldn't take another punch so yes he got robbed. He got a beating but he won the boxing match.
              Withaker fought in 154, pounds against a strong natural superwelter and he did a very good job.

              His best weight was 147.

              Chávez 135-140.

              The consensus was that Chávez won those fights and the rivals we're competitives.

              No i don't café about that, Lockridge won the fight against Gómez, not Chávez.

              Read the ****ing rules, and we're not 2, seconds.

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                #97
                Originally posted by OCPancho
                What don't you learn English first ?
                You can understand me, and you don't know anything about another idiom.

                But most important, you don't know sh.it about boxing.

                Hahahaha linares win was better than Pacquiao win hahahahahaha fuuuuu.ck

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet
                  Withaker fought in 154, pounds against a strong natural superwelter and he did a very good job.

                  His best weight was 147.

                  Chávez 135-140.

                  The consensus was that Chávez won those fights and the rivals we're competitives.

                  No i don't café about that, Lockridge won the fight against Gómez, not Chávez.

                  Read the ****ing rules, and we're not 2, seconds.
                  Whitaker had ONE fight at 154 where he was much smaller. Chavez fought more at 147 than Whitaker did at 154 and in fact Chavez fought Moreno fights above 135 than Whitaker ever did. He wasn’t at his best at 147 at all. He was at his best at 135 hence him being undisputed a consensus top 10 all-time in the division closer to #1 than #10 I might add. At 147 he rates nowhere near that. Chavez was bigger than Whitaker.

                  If you think Whitaker at 147 was better than at 135 you are a lost cause. You are just saying that because you haven’t seen his fights and you are twisting it to suit your agenda and make excuses for Chavez.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet
                    You can understand me, and you don't know anything about another idiom.

                    But most important, you don't know sh.it about boxing.

                    Hahahaha linares win was better than Pacquiao win hahahahahaha fuuuuu.ck
                    Just because someone has a different opinion doesn’t mean they know nothing. You are not right about everything and get fact checked often.

                    I don’t agree with all his points all the time but I get a huge sense he knows far more than you about boxing in general.

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by chrisJS
                      Chavez was up 15 pounds yes and Whitaker was up 10 and they are the same age and you don't think Whitaker was ruining his life? He was a ****ing junkie for crying out loud.

                      I didn't say I scored them against Chavez I said they were arguable and that's the consensus. Very close fights that if Chavez was, say, white you'd have said he lost or if he wasn't Mexican and LaPorte and Lockridge were Mexican you'd say they were robberies.

                      Yes, Taylor was robbed. He led by too large a margin and with 2 seconds left he wouldn't take another punch so yes he got robbed. He got a beating but he won the boxing match.
                      Decades later,

                      Taylor still hasn’t answered Steeles question, which was asked twice, “are you ok?”

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