Comments Thread For: Sanchez: Golovkin Has 2-3 Years Left, I'd Like 5 or 6 Fights

[TonyGe]

FACT: Canelo fought the style he wanted
FACT: Canelo implemented his gameplan on the fight
FACT: Canelo followed his corners instructions
FACT: Golovkin did NONE of those things

In the first fight Canelo didn't follow his corners instructions.
Canelo could not imlement his game plan.
Canelo did not fight the style he wanted.
Yet you claim he won the fight. Your dislike of Golovkin is blinding you.

[aboutfkntime]

What exactly makes you more than a casual fan? Let me know. Have you trained/competed in the sport? Or is there a certain amount of watching other people do something that makes someone “hardcore”. I mean, following a sport is one thing, but you act like you have functional knowledge of the sport and seem to like to post from some position of authority. So enlighten me on what sets you apart.

As far as the fights goes, you keep repeating the same stuff, which are valid opinions, but like I said, unless you wanna break down each round and score the fight, the conversation is kinda pointless. And I don’t really care if you don’t, cuz I already acknowledge the validity of a canelo scorecard. I personally think a draw is fair, but both guys did enough good work to make the case for winning imo. If your agenda is to go on and on about canelo winning cuz you think I’m some ggg fanboy and it’s pissing me off, go find someone else lol.

I have VERY good instincts for this game, and have been involved in ALL areas except administration, for decades

I did not mean to lump you in with all of the excuse-makers.....

..... it was your excuses that fooled me

like I said, there is a very good reason why you never attempted to argue that Canelo did not edge Golovkin in effective aggression, clean hard punching, and defence.....

its fine if you don't want to discuss those factors, but don't ignore them

it's cool, we can agree to disagree

[aboutfkntime]

In the first fight Canelo didn't follow his corners instructions.
Canelo could not imlement his game plan.
Canelo did not fight the style he wanted.
Yet you claim he won the fight. Your dislike of Golovkin is blinding you.

we are talking about the rematch

regarding the first fight.....


Canelo was the boxer, Golovkin was the pressure fighter

ignoring/minimizing that fact..... is, ridiculous

FACT: Canelo got his game going..... he did a masterful job of boxing/controlling Golovkin, making him miss and making him pay..... most of the rounds that Canelo won, he won CLEARLY..... and even though Canelo's output dropped during the middle of the fight, some of those rounds were nip-n-tuck

Golovkin on the other hand, struggled to get his game going..... his pressure was largely ineffective for long periods in that fight, and he missed a TON of punches

Canelo landed lots of eye-catching judge-friendly punches and his defence was superb

FACT: defence IS valid scoring criteria

Canelo did a MUCH better job of boxing Golovkin in the first fight..... than Golovkin did of boxing Canelo in the rematch

Golovkin was the supposed killer, and he got tamed

like I said earlier, I think Canelo would have been better served sticking with that same gameplan in the rematch..... but focus on his activity, focus on being sharper/more accurate, and focus on tailoring the counters/combinations that worked for him in the first fight

when boxing, Canelo got his game going, and he inflicted that style on his opponent..... Golovkin also got his game going, but he struggled to be effective for long periods..... coming into his own largely due to Canelo's inactivity

in the rematch, Golovkin was completely forced to change his style..... which is fine, that is called adapting to the guy who is in front of you..... but he still got backed up, and beaten up, with EFFECTIVE aggression (more effective aggression than Golovkin displayed in the first fight)..... and he copped even more of those eye-catching judge-friendly punches that Canelo introduced him to in the first fight

sorry, but I think that Canelo did a better job of boxing Golovkin in the first fight, than Golovkin did of boxing Canelo in the rematch..... and Canelo DEFINITELY did a better job of pressuring Golovkin in the rematch than Golovkin did in the first fight

it is entirely Canelo's fault that he aint 2-0 with Golovkin..... I think Canelo can beat Golovkin any way he wants..... and is CLEARLY the better-skilled, more well-rounded, fighter

[johnbook]

Just my opinion, but I don't think so. At least not a lot since his previous fights. There is a cumulative effect but he's not that old. He just had to react a much different approach from Canelo and couldn't do it. He always looked so good because he was always walking everyone down, cutting the ring off, putting on a lot of pressure and Canelo didn't let him do that.

I don't remember how I scored the first fight I'd have to watch it again. I know I scored it in favor of GGG but I don't remember how the rounds broke down. You?

I had it 7-4-1 for GGG in the 1st fight.

[Real King Kong]

I have VERY good instincts for this game, and have been involved in ALL areas except administration, for decades

I did not mean to lump you in with all of the excuse-makers.....

..... it was your excuses that fooled me

like I said, there is a very good reason why you never attempted to argue that Canelo did not edge Golovkin in effective aggression, clean hard punching, and defence.....

its fine if you don't want to discuss those factors, but don't ignore them

it's cool, we can agree to disagree

it's not that I disagree, but I'm saying it doesn't matter unless taken into proper context. the rounds need to be broken down individually, and edges in certain scoring criteria sway from one fighter to the other as the fight progresses.

[yankees7448]

sleazeball.....

next time you reply, remember to spank me, bltch

did you really think I wouldn't check ?

We all know Ward hadn't made 168 since 2013. We all know there were plenty of quality opponents to keep him busy at 168 if he really wanted to push the issue. GGG kept himself busy and got the Canelo fights he really wanted. Ward didn't wait. He moved up and out of reach. He got his name in the news and got the Kovalev fight as a consolation prize. Too bad he still hasn't learned how to say thank you to GGG in his native language. That would have been really classy.

[aboutfkntime]

it's not that I disagree, but I'm saying it doesn't matter unless taken into proper context. the rounds need to be broken down individually, and edges in certain scoring criteria sway from one fighter to the other as the fight progresses.

like I said, nobody is scoring the fight as a whole

my statement, that Canelo > Golovkin in ALL of the official scoring criteria..... is not justification for him winning the fight

Canelo winning more exchanges and controlling the fight round-by-round..... is

Canelo won the fight, period..... I just found it amusing that Canelo also swept the official scoring overall to the extent that there is very little argument for Golovkin

[aboutfkntime]

We all know Ward hadn't made 168 since 2013. We all know there were plenty of quality opponents to keep him busy at 168 if he really wanted to push the issue. GGG kept himself busy and got the Canelo fights he really wanted. Ward didn't wait. He moved up and out of reach. He got his name in the news and got the Kovalev fight as a consolation prize. Too bad he still hasn't learned how to say thank you to GGG in his native language. That would have been really classy.

lil'G should have taken his spanking like a good little Borat

after he ducked Ward, his career turned to shlt

he should have taken his beating from Ward, and then retired

that way people would still think that he is a good fighter..... after all, losing to a great fighter like Ward is nothing to be ashamed about

but after Golovkin ducked Ward, he lost to Jacobs..... got a lucky draw with Canelo..... and then got beaten up by Canelo

now the jig is up

he should have taken his beating from Ward and called it quits

now he will bank a loss to Charlo as well

[yankees7448]

sleazeball.....

next time you reply, remember to spank me, bltch

did you really think I wouldn't check ?

We all know Ward hadn't made 168 since 2013. We all know there were plenty of quality opponents to keep him busy at 168 if he really wanted to push the issue. GGG kept himself busy and got the Canelo fights he really wanted. Ward didn't wait. He moved up and out of reach. He got his name in the news and got the Kovalev fight as a consolation prize. Too bad he still hasn't learned how to say thank you to GGG in his native language. That would have been really classy.

[aboutfkntime]

We all know Ward hadn't made 168 since 2013. We all know there were plenty of quality opponents to keep him busy at 168 if he really wanted to push the issue. GGG kept himself busy and got the Canelo fights he really wanted. Ward didn't wait. He moved up and out of reach. He got his name in the news and got the Kovalev fight as a consolation prize. Too bad he still hasn't learned how to say thank you to GGG in his native language. That would have been really classy.

lil'G should have taken his spanking like a good little Borat

after he ducked Ward, his career turned to shlt

he should have taken his beating from Ward, and then retired

that way people would still think that he is a good fighter..... after all, losing to a great fighter like Ward is nothing to be ashamed about

but after Golovkin ducked Ward, he lost to Jacobs..... got a lucky draw with Canelo..... and then got beaten up by Canelo

now the jig is up

he should have taken his beating from Ward and called it quits

now he will bank a loss to Charlo as well