Comments Thread For: Lineage Matters Most at Heavyweight

[Vegemil]

Funny how the Wilder fans never mentioned anything about Fury being the true champ until he signed to fight Wilder.

Same guys calling him a fat drug addicted failure are calling him the lineal champ who is at 100% after years of drug abuse.

[twosweethooks]

For the sake of The Sport of Boxing I would that all the fans read this very good explanation of who the REAL CHAMP IS AND HOW TO BE THE REAL CHAMP !!

My old and gone pappy always told me it’s the man who beat the man. I stand on it !!

And since what we read is True, no matter if this fight is a good bad or great one the winner will be THE ONLY TRUE HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPEEN OF THE WORLD!!!!!

Truth is Wilder and Joshua are paper holders no matter who says what or hollers the loudest!!

Right Now , This day, no matter what has happened to Fury , he is the Real Heavyweight Champ of Allllll the World !!

[BoxHec]

the man who beat the man... lol who the F% Wlad has beat??? NOBODY! so the last lineal world champion is Mike Tyson who beat Spinks who beat Holmes who beat Ali who beat Foreman who beat Frazier who beat Ali who beat Liston..

The last great heavyweight is Lewis but he beat old Holyfield and old Tyson

Wlad has meet zero HOFs so stop your BS bunch of morons, his biggest win was again an injured and past his prime Brewster

[N/A]

I said ESPN. You posted Rafael. Spin spin spin. You just can't acknowledge you're wrong about anything.

No, you posted Rafael's personal rankings. ESPN as a news entity recognizes Fury as lineal champion and every ESPN reporter, including Rafael, refers to Fury as lineal champion in their articles. Fury is also referred to as lineal champion on ESPN's TV channels. So to say ESPN doesn't recognize Fury as lineal champion is a blatant lie. I posted an ESPN article from TODAY that calls him lineal champion.

[N/A]

Ring doesn't recognise him as lineal, some writers might.

That's a blatant lie. Every article in both Ring Magazine itself and on Ring's website refers to Fury as lineal champion. I'm holding the most recent issue of Ring in my hand right now and it refers to him as lineal champion. So yes, Ring does recognize him as lineal. They just don't recognize him as Ring titleholder, but the Ring title has absolutely nothing to do with lineal. They also refer to Adonis Stevenson as lineal champion even though he doesn't hold the Ring title.

If you weren't a teenager who started following boxing yesterday, you'd already know this.

[DougalDylan]

I know you're a teenager and started watching boxing yesterday, but the "major rankings" have absolutely nothing to do with lineal. It's the man who beat the man. Period. Nobody is dis*****g that Fury is lineal except for obsessive Joshua fans.

I know you just started watching boxing ;-) so I'll be gentle .. lineal used to be run by the Ring (who stripped Fury for not defending) then it went over Trans national Boxing Rankings who maintain a lineal list (who stripped Fury when he retired) ... get the idea. Klitschko beat no one for the belt so the whole man who beat the man is ****** .. let it build up a run of say 10 boxers and then may mean something again one day.

[N/A]

I know you just started watching boxing ;-) so I'll be gentle .. lineal used to be run by the Ring (who stripped Fury for not defending)

Ring says Fury is still the lineal champion. They say it on a daily basis. Just like every other major media outlet, including BoxingScene, ESPN and everyone else.

then it went over Trans national Boxing Rankings who maintain a lineal list

Nobody is in charge of lineal. Not Ring before and not TBRB now. The public keeps track on their own. It's very simple. The man who beat the man. Everybody other than obsessive AJ fans refers to Fury as lineal champion. Fury isn't TBRB champion, but he is lineal champion and even Ring, which stripped him of the Ring title, admits that he's still lineal champion.

[OldTerry]

Everyone aside from the WBC ranks Joshua as number one.

As for Fury's "lineage" why was Fury not "stripped" of that for failing a drugs test? Oh right because it's a made up title that doesn't actually exist.

"Everyone aside from the WBC ranks Joshua as number one." - Good example of Telling a lie using qualifiers (aside from the WBC ranks).

Now let's be honest, ALL titles are made up aren't they? Certainly none were handed down by God. AJ is certainly a very good HW fighter but can he defeat Wilder or even Fury? This is debatable and unless they all three fight each other fairly soon we just can't know.

[Robbie Barrett]

No, you posted Rafael's personal rankings. ESPN as a news entity recognizes Fury as lineal champion and every ESPN reporter, including Rafael, refers to Fury as lineal champion in their articles. Fury is also referred to as lineal champion on ESPN's TV channels. So to say ESPN doesn't recognize Fury as lineal champion is a blatant lie. I posted an ESPN article from TODAY that calls him lineal champion.

ESPN doesn't recognise Fury as lineal, their rankings CLEARLY show that you ****ing ******. It's just ridiculous how you try to spin everything.

[Robbie Barrett]

That's a blatant lie. Every article in both Ring Magazine itself and on Ring's website refers to Fury as lineal champion. I'm holding the most recent issue of Ring in my hand right now and it refers to him as lineal champion. So yes, Ring does recognize him as lineal. They just don't recognize him as Ring titleholder, but the Ring title has absolutely nothing to do with lineal. They also refer to Adonis Stevenson as lineal champion even though he doesn't hold the Ring title.

If you weren't a teenager who started following boxing yesterday, you'd already know this.

Nobody gives a **** about an article.An article is written by one guy. Their rankings are decided by panel of experts. He's not ****ing recognised as lineal. They do see the ring title as lineal, read their rules. ****ing ******.