What Are the Holes in Loma's Game?

[Tony Trick-Pony]

They did well blending that international amatuer style with a pro style but he still has spots that are too amatuerish. His natural talent helps him get away with it against lesser fighters. He'll stand in too long.

I agree, B-Deezy. It will be interesting to see if maybe they've worked on some of these things since the Linares fight when he faces Pedraza. Since he's a small lightweight, every fight from here on will probably be more challenging.

[Gillie]

His tendency to get a little arrogant when he gets into the zone. That Linares kd was a perfect example of him feeling himself a little too much and then, bam! Other than that, don't really see any flaws as yet.

[!! Shawn]

No one with a shed of integrity would attribute Linares' success to anything more than Lomachenko's complacency. Sure, Linares has pop. But Limachenko bounced right back up from the knockdown and corrected his game to proceed without enduring any further harm - stopping Linares, no less.

Keep in mind that Robinson was decked by an absolute bum in Graziano. And seems to have enjoyed a long count against Art Levine (who the fcuk is that!?). A guy like Hagler gets mad credit for his beard, but you don't think he would've hit the deck if he had fought Spinks?

If Lomachenko runs into real problems, it's as others stated: 1) he has been prone to being bullied, as the pros are more physical th as m amateur Boxing; 2) He lacks tremendous firepower. The former can be corrected through experience. The latter doesn't have to limit his success (for so many obvious reasons), but big punchers tend to be more threatening above their ideal weight class and enjoy greater longevity.

I don't think Lomachenko can really get roughed up anymore. He learned very fast from the salido fight. If you hit him low, he will hit right back now. I think his a little heavier handed than he gets credit for.

Its an area where people don't really appreciate that he throws so many setup shots, and just completely dismantles guys mentally, and physically. He is really good at disguising the harder shots as throw away shots, and mixing them in randomly in combinations.

Also in the saldio fight, only one of them was hurt during the fight, and it wasn't Lomachenko. That was when lomachenko realized that he cant rely on the referee to protect him from fouls.

All of these fighters who should have stood up against his power aren't folding in their corners for no reason.

When fights get to the skill levels that Lomacheko is at, its hard to really say anything is a hole in their game without being inside their head, because without a doubt, some holes Lomachenko creates to try and bait his opponents into going for it, or laying traps as you might call it.

Also, the way he moves, and his overall defensive skills make it so that he can afford to take a little more risks from time to time because if he doest get hit, odds are his opponent has taken most of the power out of their punches to focus on trying to make contact.

The Linares knockdown is a great example. Linares isn't the hardest puncher in the world, but he can crack. If he had the confidence in connecting to put power behind the shot, he could have put Lomachenko down harder. Lomachenko probably wouldn't have been coming in straight ahead like that if Linares was putting anything on his shots though. Also throw in that it took someone with speed like Linares to even be able to barely get the shot in before Loma got his glove in position to block it. If Linares handspeed was just a little slower, loma would have caught the shot, even coming in recklessly, like he was.

Im not sure who could bully him on the inside either. He never is complacent in a clench. He always tries to pull out, and he usually is successful, and his opponent ends up covering up with Lomachenko throwing from all different angles for their effort.

Linares really put in some good bodywork inside as well, it didn't do him any good.

I feel like we will only see Loma take another loss if he gets knocked out, or when age takes his legs from him.

I don't think he will fare to well without his legs. His style is so reliant on them for creating the angles he likes to work off of.

[!! Shawn]

Lomachenko's entire game is dependent on his opponent coming out of position and giving him an opening to fire his shots.

If the opponent doesn't just give Lomachenko the opening, he's yet to develop the tools to create his own opening

Ummm? Are you talking about the same guy everyone else watches that uses throw away punches as tool in his constant masterclass in the art of pulling down his opponents defense create openings to get his own shots in?

[Tony Trick-Pony]

Ummm? Are you talking about the same guy everyone else watches that uses throw away punches as tool in his constant masterclass in the art of pulling down his opponents defense create openings to get his own shots in?

Yeah, man.

I love watching him do that.

[Zmerai Khan]

I don't think Lomachenko can really get roughed up anymore. He learned very fast from the salido fight. If you hit him low, he will hit right back now. I think his a little heavier handed than he gets credit for.

Its an area where people don't really appreciate that he throws so many setup shots, and just completely dismantles guys mentally, and physically. He is really good at disguising the harder shots as throw away shots, and mixing them in randomly in combinations.

Also in the saldio fight, only one of them was hurt during the fight, and it wasn't Lomachenko. That was when lomachenko realized that he cant rely on the referee to protect him from fouls.

All of these fighters who should have stood up against his power aren't folding in their corners for no reason.

When fights get to the skill levels that Lomacheko is at, its hard to really say anything is a hole in their game without being inside their head, because without a doubt, some holes Lomachenko creates to try and bait his opponents into going for it, or laying traps as you might call it.

Also, the way he moves, and his overall defensive skills make it so that he can afford to take a little more risks from time to time because if he doest get hit, odds are his opponent has taken most of the power out of their punches to focus on trying to make contact.

The Linares knockdown is a great example. Linares isn't the hardest puncher in the world, but he can crack. If he had the confidence in connecting to put power behind the shot, he could have put Lomachenko down harder. Lomachenko probably wouldn't have been coming in straight ahead like that if Linares was putting anything on his shots though. Also throw in that it took someone with speed like Linares to even be able to barely get the shot in before Loma got his glove in position to block it. If Linares handspeed was just a little slower, loma would have caught the shot, even coming in recklessly, like he was.

Im not sure who could bully him on the inside either. He never is complacent in a clench. He always tries to pull out, and he usually is successful, and his opponent ends up covering up with Lomachenko throwing from all different angles for their effort.

Linares really put in some good bodywork inside as well, it didn't do him any good.

I feel like we will only see Loma take another loss if he gets knocked out, or when age takes his legs from him.

I don't think he will fare to well without his legs. His style is so reliant on them for creating the angles he likes to work off of.

Post of the year.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

I have plenty of praise for Lomachenko but no one's perfect. As I see it, I does tend to lunge in sometimes like he did against Linares and got caught. At lot of folks say he uses arm punches which he does but I can't see that as a flaw, considering he does seem to put more steam on his punches when his opponents become more stationary. So what do you guys think? What are the holes?

He gets complacent when in control of a fight. That’s when you tend to see the lunging as you mentioned, leaving his chin out, staying within punching range too long etc.

When fully concentrated there are little to no flaws in his game, certainly not technically anyway.

[Scipio2009]

Ummm? Are you talking about the same guy everyone else watches that uses throw away punches as tool in his constant masterclass in the art of pulling down his opponents defense create openings to get his own shots in?

If you don't fall for the bait, Lomachenko doesn't land clean. The throwaway punches/guard pulling seem to be Lomachenko's best tools to try and induce a mistake.

Watch the Marriaga fight, watch the Rigondeaux fight, watch the Linares fight.