What Are the Holes in Loma's Game?

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  • kingstip9
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    #11
    Gets marked up quite easily

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    • _Rexy_
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      #12
      Originally posted by famicommander
      If Linares can send him to the mat, there's no telling if his chin would hold up to guys like Mikey or fighters in the higher weight classes.

      Even Floyd got hit sometimes. It's boxing, your chin will be tested. Up until Linares, Lomachenko mostly fought guys he was naturally bigger than. We don't know if he can take the heat from a larger, more powerful puncher until we actually see it.
      Was a flash knockdown. He didn’t seem wobbled or even hurt.

      His biggest flaw that I’ve seen is he gets on a roll then gets arrogant and lets his guard down. Cost him against Linares. We’ll see if he learned from it. No such thing as a perfect boxer.

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      • Citizen Koba
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        #13
        Originally posted by Ganondorf
        The main thing I see from my armchair position is sometimes when he’s having lots of success with his footwork and is landing lots of shots, he gets a little carried away with punching and opens himself up as we saw vs Linares.

        He doesn’t forget about defense often doe. Other than that, he doesn’t make many mistakes that I see.
        This. Complacency. A smart (and very good) opponent might be able to turn that to his advantage.

        Other than that he has the vulnerability that all guys who move a lot have is that they can get caught with his feet in the air and dropped or wobbled - take hellishly good timing or luck to catch Loma like that but it will happen eventually. That's a question of style though - a massive part of the way he fights is his mobility... all styles balance strengths against vulnerabilities.

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        • boliodogs
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          #14
          He is small for 135 and he is a better stronger harder punching PFP fighter at 126 and 130 than he is at 135. His chin remains the same but the fighters he fights at 135 hit harder. What if Mikey lands a perfect straight right? He might not get up as fast and he might not survive. His overall game, stamina, offense and defense is damn good of course.

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          • R-Hand Southpaw
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            #15
            Originally posted by _Rexy_
            Was a flash knockdown. He didn’t seem wobbled or even hurt.

            His biggest flaw that I’ve seen is he gets on a roll then gets arrogant and lets his guard down. Cost him against Linares. We’ll see if he learned from it. No such thing as a perfect boxer.
            Yep 100% this.

            Prior to the knockdown Lomachenko was dominating Linares, especially in round 6. If he didnt get knocked down I would legit wouldn't have been surprised in Linares quit.

            When a guy shells up, throws every punch like his life depends on it, and keeps backing up it's not a good sign. Especially to a guy who was much smaller than himself. Lomas chin is untested but hes gotta be smart and not expose himself like that.

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            • GhostofDempsey
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              He relies a lot on reflexes. Which is fine when you are young and in your prime. But as a fighter ages, he has to make adjustments. Otherwise they end up like Roy Jones. Pacquiao is an example of a fighter who has made some adjustments. If Loma wants to fight beyond the age of 35, he'll need to make some adjustments in his defense and not be too dependent upon his quickness and reflexes to get him out of or avoid trouble.

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              • sunny31
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                #17
                I don't think he's as well set to fight backwards, his stance and punch delivery is more effective moving forward. He also likes to dictate the pace, so again another benefit of pushing him back, easier said than done though

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                • CrowsNestWest
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                  #18
                  He just leans in too much, since he's used to fighting shorter guys. Linares is a great fighter, so i'd love to see that rematch. I can't imagine his inside game is as good as his mid range.

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                  • filup79
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
                    He relies a lot on reflexes. Which is fine when you are young and in your prime. But as a fighter ages, he has to make adjustments. Otherwise they end up like Roy Jones. Pacquiao is an example of a fighter who has made some adjustments. If Loma wants to fight beyond the age of 35, he'll need to make some adjustments in his defense and not be too dependent upon his quickness and reflexes to get him out of or avoid trouble.
                    This right here. I've said it many times. People claiming that Lomas is an all time great and legend now is ludicrous. He is a talent and a great fighter right now at 30. But let's see if he can maintain fighting the way he does against tough opponents at 135 for the next few years when he starts to slow down. Will he even be the same fighter after surgery? I think we have seen many fighters who we all thought were heading to greatness after being dominant for a few years only to go down hill and lose it. We will see if Loma could adjust his style like Floyd did to be dominant his entire career.

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                    • sicko
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                      #20
                      Not Many!

                      Not a physically STRONG Fighter, he works better from Distance than he does inside. BODY WORK is how you beat a Loma like Salido (Minus the low blows of course) but beyond just the Low Blows, Salido had a very good Gameplan for him especially the 1st half of that fight...


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                      Also he can be countered and timed, Timing always been Speeds worst Enemy, to get to Loma it has to be straight down the middle...
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                      He will side step Hooks, attempted Combos and all that stuff easily. While yes he is slick and has good defense again it is boxing so you're going to get hit and yes even Loma gets caught with good shots. But yeah it is going to take some dirtiness to beat a Loma. I consider him the Modern Day Willie Pep basically but Pep Kryptonite was Sandy Saddler who beat him 3 out of 4 times or something like that because Sandy was willing to get dirty and did whatever it took to win. Pushed Pep around, went low, roughed him up on the inside really bad, just kept disrupting his rhythm
                      Last edited by sicko; 11-21-2018, 01:25 PM.

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