What Are the Holes in Loma's Game?

[Zmerai Khan]

If Linares can send him to the mat, there's no telling if his chin would hold up to guys like Mikey or fighters in the higher weight classes.

Even Floyd got hit sometimes. It's boxing, your chin will be tested. Up until Linares, Lomachenko mostly fought guys he was naturally bigger than. We don't know if he can take the heat from a larger, more powerful puncher until we actually see it.

No one with a shed of integrity would attribute Linares' success to anything more than Lomachenko's complacency. Sure, Linares has pop. But Limachenko bounced right back up from the knockdown and corrected his game to proceed without enduring any further harm - stopping Linares, no less.

Keep in mind that Robinson was decked by an absolute bum in Graziano. And seems to have enjoyed a long count against Art Levine (who the fcuk is that!?). A guy like Hagler gets mad credit for his beard, but you don't think he would've hit the deck if he had fought Spinks?

If Lomachenko runs into real problems, it's as others stated: 1) he has been prone to being bullied, as the pros are more physical th as m amateur Boxing; 2) He lacks tremendous firepower. The former can be corrected through experience. The latter doesn't have to limit his success (for so many obvious reasons), but big punchers tend to be more threatening above their ideal weight class and enjoy greater longevity.

[richardt]

Up until Linares, Lomachenko mostly fought guys he was naturally bigger than. We don't know if he can take the heat from a larger, more powerful puncher until we actually see it.

Not correct. With one exception, Lom did not fight smaller guys. He moved up in weight after he was 25 which means he was at his natural weight before he moved up. Lom was not bigger than Salido and on top of that Salido came in at least 2 divisions heavier than Lom. Walters was in a weight class above the one Lom started in and was clearly bigger, not to mention Linares being bigger. And all the other noted guys Lom fought were his size.

[R-Hand Southpaw]

Not Many!

Not a physically STRONG Fighter, he works better from Distance than he does inside. BODY WORK is how you beat a Loma like Salido (Minus the low blows of course) but beyond just the Low Blows, Salido had a very good Gameplan for him especially the 1st half of that fight...


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Also he can be countered and timed, Timing always been Speeds worst Enemy, to get to Loma it has to be straight down the middle...
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He will side step Hooks, attempted Combos and all that stuff easily. While yes he is slick and has good defense again it is boxing so you're going to get hit and yes even Loma gets caught with good shots. But yeah it is going to take some dirtiness to beat a Loma. I consider him the Modern Day Willie Pep basically but Pep Kryptonite was Sandy Saddler who beat him 3 out of 4 times or something like that because Sandy was willing to get dirty and did whatever it took to win. Pushed Pep around, went low, roughed him up on the inside really bad, just kept disrupting his rhythm

I think hes definitely gotten better at dirtying his style after he fought salido. I went back and watch lomachenkos first fight and you could 100% tell how much of an amateur at that point he was. Just sticking to the outside waiting to engage. Nothing on the inside and nothing dirty.

If he would have fought salido in his first fight he would have definitely lost instead of having it be a SD and arguably a W for him.

The growth after the fight though was good to see. Anyone who boxes knows its tough to block low blows because you never know if they're a body shot or a low blow. Not to mention how Salido consistently lead with his head. These are what consistently froze lomachenko. Hes got to realize that the ref isnt gonna call **** and he has to fight through it

[Luilun]

If Linares can send him to the mat, there's no telling if his chin would hold up to guys like Mikey or fighters in the higher weight classes.

Even Floyd got hit sometimes. It's boxing, your chin will be tested. Up until Linares, Lomachenko mostly fought guys he was naturally bigger than. We don't know if he can take the heat from a larger, more powerful puncher until we actually see it.

A guy who starts out at 126 was bigger than guys he fought at 130 or 135 so you are saying when he was at 126 he was always bigger than these guys GTFOOH . that was a flash knock down and you make it look like he has no chin

[SHOOTALLCLOWNS]

I have plenty of praise for Lomachenko but no one's perfect. As I see it, I does tend to lunge in sometimes like he did against Linares and got caught. At lot of folks say he uses arm punches which he does but I can't see that as a flaw, considering he does seem to put more steam on his punches when his opponents become more stationary. So what do you guys think? What are the holes?

I wonder how good loma's chin truly is especially at the higher weights of 135 and 140. since he rarely gets hit flush and is so good defensively its hard to tell. linares caught him and dropped him but loma recovered immediately. maybe the dirty/awkward style is still trouble for him but loma has improved a ton since the salido fight and would have destroyed salido in a rematch.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

I wonder how good loma's chin truly is especially at the higher weights of 135 and 140. since he rarely gets hit flush and is so good defensively its hard to tell. linares caught him and dropped him but loma recovered immediately. maybe the dirty/awkward style is still trouble for him but loma has improved a ton since the salido fight and would have destroyed salido in a rematch.

Yeah, I think the style still gives him trouble but just look at the Rigo fight. He called Rigo out on every foul to the ref and I respect that. If you get fouled, speak up. That's why the rules are there. I don't see another fighter low-blowing him to a win. Won't happen anymore.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

Not Many!

Not a physically STRONG Fighter, he works better from Distance than he does inside. BODY WORK is how you beat a Loma like Salido (Minus the low blows of course) but beyond just the Low Blows, Salido had a very good Gameplan for him especially the 1st half of that fight...


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Also he can be countered and timed, Timing always been Speeds worst Enemy, to get to Loma it has to be straight down the middle...
[IMG]https://i.*****.com/media/82r11osNiG0FZf49qP/*****.webp[/IMG]

He will side step Hooks, attempted Combos and all that stuff easily. While yes he is slick and has good defense again it is boxing so you're going to get hit and yes even Loma gets caught with good shots. But yeah it is going to take some dirtiness to beat a Loma. I consider him the Modern Day Willie Pep basically but Pep Kryptonite was Sandy Saddler who beat him 3 out of 4 times or something like that because Sandy was willing to get dirty and did whatever it took to win. Pushed Pep around, went low, roughed him up on the inside really bad, just kept disrupting his rhythm

Excellent assessment, man. Yeah, I get the roughing him up and getting dirty part, but don't we have rules in boxing for a reason? It's hard for me to respect a guy doing that.

[Zmerai Khan]

Gets marked up quite easily

This is a fair point. But its significance is overplayed. Napoles and Kiltchko each lost an important fight to cuts. But neither man was defined by that loss. Being easily cut can derail a career, but usually that's a thing that occurs before the career really takes off. Maybe i'm forgetting some key examples?

[Teetotaler]

Stop running into punches, especially from vicious powerpunchers.

Yup that loma is a straight up face firat euro bum your a lil hatingass ***. Did your hubby davis finally tick u off that u took him off your avi?

[BoxingIsGreat]

Yup that loma is a straight up face firat euro bum your a lil hatingass ***. Did your hubby davis finally tick u off that u took him off your avi?

Sounds like you've just got back on here from a long ban. How many times do you have to be banned before you learn to respect yourself and speak like an adult?

Get a life.