Could Jarrell Miller beat Joe Frazier?

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  • Havoctka
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    #51
    Originally posted by juggernaut666
    One of the dumbest posts if not the dumbest one on here...anyone can look up Mathis health issues throughout his career it was the cause of his obesity. I already provided you with Frazier struggling to lift 140 pounds over his head.
    You provided me with what ?
    First it was 200 pounds now its 140
    If you want to see dumb pull out a picture of your mother

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    • juggernaut666
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      #52
      Originally posted by Havoctka
      You provided me with what ?
      First it was 200 pounds now its 140
      If you want to see dumb pull out a picture of your mother
      You realize 140 is less then 200 right...?

      Perfect example of why Wilder fans get picked on for being uneducated!

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      • Cutthroat
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        #53
        Originally posted by Scipio2009
        Miller punches nowhere near as hard as Foreman did, so it wouldn't be the same result.
        Based on what? Miller is 6'4, 300lbs+ with a solid build, a guy like that generates serious power and he's very skilled. Have you seen how bad Foreman's defense is?

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          #54
          Originally posted by Cutthroat
          Based on what? Miller is 6'4, 300lbs+ with a solid build, a guy like that generates serious power and he's very skilled. Have you seen how bad Foreman's defense is?
          With your logic Tyson Fury should be knocking every opponent out. If you think Miller is the same level of puncher or fighter that Foreman was, that's just comical.

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          • Tony Trick-Pony
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            #55
            Originally posted by joseph5620
            With your logic Tyson Fury should be knocking every opponent out. If you think Miller is the same level of puncher or fighter that Foreman was, that's just comical.
            Drugs have to be involved in this thinking. Haha. Foreman would destroy Miller.

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              #56
              Originally posted by joseph5620
              With your logic Tyson Fury should be knocking every opponent out. If you think Miller is the same level of puncher or fighter that Foreman was, that's just comical.
              Tyson Fury has 27 wins 19 knockouts, and he dominates because of his size just like Foreman did. Tyson Fury is in the 1st percentile of all professional heavies in terms of size, same with Jarrell Miller, and these guys have shown skill.


              Foreman ranked in the 1st percentile in his era, but in 2018 he's nowhere near top 1% at just 6'3 220 in his prime.

              There are lesser fighters than Miller that gave Foreman a run for his money. Foreman's defense is far worse than Wilder, Fury, AJ, Miller etc. He may have been a great offensive fighter his defense of constantly pushing off (which made his strength very important), and catching punches on his forehead is crap compared to guys like Wilder & Fury.

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              • Madison Boxing
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                #57
                Im surprised valuev wasnt the GOAT cause judging by the responses in here noone can compete with heavy fighters

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Cutthroat
                  Tyson Fury has 27 wins 19 knockouts, and he dominates because of his size just like Foreman did. Tyson Fury is in the 1st percentile of all professional heavies in terms of size, same with Jarrell Miller, and these guys have shown skill.


                  Foreman ranked in the 1st percentile in his era, but in 2018 he's nowhere near top 1% at just 6'3 220 in his prime.

                  There are lesser fighters than Miller that gave Foreman a run for his money. Foreman's defense is far worse than Wilder, Fury, AJ, Miller etc. He may have been a great offensive fighter his defense of constantly pushing off (which made his strength very important), and catching punches on his forehead is crap compared to guys like Wilder & Fury.
                  Miller just beat the world number 50 and youre tipping him to beat an ATG based on him being fatter? Stay off the crackpipe son

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                  • Cutthroat
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by DramaShow
                    Im surprised valuev wasnt the GOAT cause judging by the responses in here noone can compete with heavy fighters
                    Because these guys just aren't "big", they're big and skilled.

                    What do Valuev & Wilder even have in common besides being large?

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                    • Madison Boxing
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Cutthroat
                      Because these guys just aren't "big", they're big and skilled.

                      What do Valuev & Wilder even have in common besides being large?
                      When has miller ever proven his skill who the **** has he beat lol

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