Could Jarrell Miller beat Joe Frazier?

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  • Cutthroat
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    #61
    Originally posted by DramaShow
    Miller just beat the world number 50 and youre tipping him to beat an ATG based on him being fatter? Stay off the crackpipe son
    Jimmy Young (20-5-2) was capable of defeating Foreman, but Miller isn't? Ok, oooookay

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      #62
      Originally posted by DramaShow
      When has miller ever proven his skill who the **** has he beat lol
      You can't tell the difference in skill between Miller and a guy like Valuev? The mobility Miller possesses is up there with anybody in boxing's history, 300lb guys do not move as nimble as him and he throws good combos. Go ahead and try to find a single guy from boxing's history that big that looked as good as Miller does.

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      • Madison Boxing
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        #63
        Originally posted by Cutthroat
        You can't tell the difference in skill between Miller and a guy like Valuev? The mobility Miller possesses is up there with anybody in boxing's history, 300lb guys do not move as nimble as him and he throws good combos. Go ahead and try to find a single guy from boxing's history that big that looked as good as Miller does.
        Lmao youre acting like hes some elite p4p fighter, he just fought someone outside the top 50 and hasnt fought anyone close to elite level. You sound ridiculous. all u yanks seem to care about is if someone has an 0 and looks.good knocking out scrubs

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          #64
          Originally posted by Cutthroat
          Tyson Fury has 27 wins 19 knockouts, and he dominates because of his size just like Foreman did. Tyson Fury is in the 1st percentile of all professional heavies in terms of size, same with Jarrell Miller, and these guys have shown skill.


          Foreman ranked in the 1st percentile in his era, but in 2018 he's nowhere near top 1% at just 6'3 220 in his prime.

          There are lesser fighters than Miller that gave Foreman a run for his money. Foreman's defense is far worse than Wilder, Fury, AJ, Miller etc. He may have been a great offensive fighter his defense of constantly pushing off (which made his strength very important), and catching punches on his forehead is crap compared to guys like Wilder & Fury.
          I'm not going to ague with you about whether Foreman is a better fighter and puncher than Miller. The fact that you believe it's debatable speaks for itself.

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            #65
            omg ....are you people nuts even comparing miller to any atg ??? ******* is a hell of a drug.:

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              #66
              Originally posted by bender2000
              omg ....are you people nuts even comparing miller to any atg ??? ******* is a hell of a drug.:
              LOL

              Exactly, man.

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                #67
                Originally posted by joseph5620
                I'm not going to ague with you about whether Foreman is a better fighter and puncher than Miller. The fact that you believe it's debatable speaks for itself.
                So Jimmy Young, 20-5-2 could defeat Foreman but Miller would have no chance?

                Have you actually seen Foreman's style? He routinely pushed off opponents to create distance, his strength was key in doing that. He's not going to be able to push off guys like that because in this era they're bigger and stronger.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by DramaShow
                  Lmao youre acting like hes some elite p4p fighter, he just fought someone outside the top 50 and hasnt fought anyone close to elite level. You sound ridiculous. all u yanks seem to care about is if someone has an 0 and looks.good knocking out scrubs

                  You're acting like Jimmy Young didn't defeat Foreman, that's reality. If Jimmy Young, 20 wins, 5 losses, 2 draws, could defeat Foreman it's more than possible for a monster like Miller.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Cutthroat
                    You're acting like Jimmy Young didn't defeat Foreman, that's reality. If Jimmy Young, 20 wins, 5 losses, 2 draws, could defeat Foreman it's more than possible for a monster like Miller.
                    It's clear you have never seen Jimmy Young fight and know nothing about him. Looking up his record on boxrec doesn't cut it and never does.

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