Could Jarrell Miller beat Joe Frazier?

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  • Ganondorf
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    #21
    Originally posted by Tony Trick-Pony
    Smart man.

    There is hope for you, but 5 are clearly lost...
    Thank you sir. I’m sometimes wrong but pretty confident in this one.

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    • FinitoxDinamita
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      #22
      He would be lucky to beat marvis frazier.

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      • Tony Trick-Pony
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        #23
        Originally posted by FinitoxDinamita
        He would be lucky to beat marvis frazier.


        Exactly, man.

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        • Tony Trick-Pony
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          #24
          Originally posted by Rubber Ducky
          Frazier beat a 300lbs Buster Mathis as an amateur and beat him again as a pro though Mathis had lost some weight by then.

          Not sure Miller has the power, he's not a big one punch hitter, he makes guys gas out first. Dinu was gassing when he was stopped, Miller isn't going to gas out Frazier.

          Miller does pose a style problem though he can back Frazier up and Frazier on the back foot won't be as effective. But I think Frazier has the kind of fight ending power Miller doesn't and eventually he'll hurt Miller and then smoke him once he has Miller on the back foot.

          Also we all know Miller is doping, he's failed a test before, is not enrolled in VADA despite being ranked by the WBA and based on his instagram is into body building and is surrounded by people who clearly do use steroids like his cousin who is a body builder. Give Frazier the same steroids and I think it would be a much more easy fight for Frazier.
          Nice assessment, Ducky. I could see it going that way.

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            #25
            Miller has over a hundred pounds on Frazier. The first pro that Frazier fought as a guy that size was Mathis at 245 and was close up to round 7 , but had health issues. Mathis weighed 300 pounds in the ams and defeated Frazier. For this reason I'm going with a healthy much more for and harder punching Miller who could tire Frazier down as the fight goes longer.

            The thread said could defeat Frazier , of course he could he has the work engine to do so against any guy under 6 ft tall . Miller's weaknesses are at long range not short range.

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            • Havoctka
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              #26
              The Smoking Joe that fought m Ali first fight gives miller a heart attack in 5 rds.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Rubber Ducky
                Frazier beat a 300lbs Buster Mathis as an amateur and beat him again as a pro though Mathis had lost some weight by then.

                Not sure Miller has the power, he's not a big one punch hitter, he makes guys gas out first. Dinu was gassing when he was stopped, Miller isn't going to gas out Frazier.

                Miller does pose a style problem though he can back Frazier up and Frazier on the back foot won't be as effective. But I think Frazier has the kind of fight ending power Miller doesn't and eventually he'll hurt Miller and then smoke him once he has Miller on the back foot.

                Also we all know Miller is doping, he's failed a test before, is not enrolled in VADA despite being ranked by the WBA and based on his instagram is into body building and is surrounded by people who clearly do use steroids like his cousin who is a body builder. Give Frazier the same steroids and I think it would be a much more easy fight for Frazier.
                Frazier didn't beat Mathis in the amateurs.

                What everyone is forgetting here is the amount of combat experience Miller has and even took some CroCop leg kicks way before he was a top boxer which are at least 3 x harder then any 205 pound Frazier punch will deliver.

                Frazier had more techniques in punch delivery but that's a 300 pound guy he's trying to chop down, the fights show Frazier will struggle here. with the guys he's fought in his own era.

                He's not backing Miller up, Frazier had enough trouble bench pressing 200 pounds you need SOME type of physical presence here if your game is grinding down guys !

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                • Havoctka
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by FinitoxDinamita
                  He would be lucky to beat marvis frazier.
                  Marvis sister would have beat fat boys butt too

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                  • Havoctka
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by juggernaut666
                    Frazier didn't beat Mathis in the amateurs.

                    What everyone is forgetting here is the amount of combat experience Miller has and even took some CroCop leg kicks way before he was a top boxer which are at least 3 x harder then any 205 pound Frazier punch will deliver.

                    Frazier had more techniques in punch delivery but that's a 300 pound guy he's trying to chop down, the fights show Frazier will struggle here. with the guys he's fought in his own era.

                    He's not backing Miller up, Frazier had enough trouble bench pressing 200 pounds you need SOME type of physical presence here if your game is grinding down guys !
                    Joe kicked busters ass as a pro.
                    He would have knock the blubber out of fat boy. My co workers and I are reading your post laughing our heads off. Joe Frazier had trouble bench pressing 200 pounds ? let me guess you was spotting Joe ?
                    Last edited by Havoctka; 11-21-2018, 08:32 AM.

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                    • Marchegiano
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                      #30
                      Can no one speak to technique?

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