Could Jarrell Miller beat Joe Frazier?

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    #41
    Originally posted by Havoctka
    The only way Miller beats smoking Joe if he trip and fell on Frazier and squish him.

    This is a good example above of the posters picking Frazier, no rhyme or reason just mindless points, where the other guys posted informative points to why Miller wins ,myself included .

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      #42
      Originally posted by juggernaut666
      Then you guys are only making fools of yourselves because Mathis was winning the early rounds, he tired out because he suffered a severe case of asthma and had a diabetes problem, that still didn't stop him when he was younger at about 300 pounds defeating Frazier in the amateurs ,is that funny to considering the thread was made because of fat Miller who ironically has more muscle and then we have an actual FAt person defeating Frazier at 300 pouinds with boxing gloves on ? lol

      Here is a clip starting about 1:40 that shows how weak physically Frazier would have been in comparison trying to push Miller back , there were other lifts he did ,lifts I did when I was like 15.....



      Frazier is a better boxer then Miller but so was his last opponent who actually had the style to beat Miller but power over came skill and that guy was 6'5 fighting outside and moving until he started slowing down, Miller wont have to do much bc frazier is just going to walk right to him like he did foreman.

      Frazier could win if he fought him 10 times maybe getting a win or 2 going against real life stats such as weight and size.= and Fraziers improbability of defeating a power puncher over 220 since he don't have a win with one.
      Excellent post Green K sent. Miller just to big for a Frazier this isnt really hard to see.

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      • Havoctka
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        #43
        Originally posted by REDEEMER
        This is a good example above of the posters picking Frazier, no rhyme or reason just mindless points, where the other guys posted informative points to why Miller wins ,myself included .
        Here's a point for you Joe Frazier a proven atg kicks fat boy ass who fought no one.when fat boy becomes heavy weight champ then we can talk. I'll put your post with the other moron who claims j Frazier struggles to bench 200 pounds.

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          #44
          Originally posted by 4truth
          Not unbelievable but imo Miller is open for Frazier's best weapon and I don't think Miller walks through it, I think it wrecks him.

          Miller has never been hurt so it would be based on second guessing more then usual if we really looked at Frazier's best win of a guy that size and that is Mathis who wasn't a power puncher . Frazier is open to uppercuts and that's Millers best punch he hits guys on the inside , i'm a betting man and would bet Frazier gets rattled quicker then Miller. Miller also likes to work the body .

          I don't think people understand there's some force behind 300 pounds and a guy who has been in kick boxing and MMA isn't going to be a dumb fighter but there's not much to figure out because Frazier stands right in the pocket. I'm just not buying a 5'11 guy at 205 bullies his way into a win so easily , if you read the thread you would see its like a miracle if Miller wins. Ha

          Each to his own but Frazier wouldn't be a favorite today we all really know that, a gif of a Frazier dropping Ali which required over 12 rounds to do isn't convincing me.
          Last edited by REDEEMER; 11-21-2018, 01:28 PM.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Havoctka
            Here's a point for you Joe Frazier a proven atg kicks fat boy ass who fought no one.when fat boy becomes heavy weight champ then we can talk. I'll put your post with the other moron who claims j Frazier struggles to bench 200 pounds.
            Miller wont win a title because Joshua or Wilder ,maybe Fury hold them at the time.

            They aren't 5'11/5'12 200 pounders they are 6'6/plus giants who can box and box great ( well Wilder has Power and length) these guys have the tools to defeat Miller more then a grind style Frazier severly out sized. .

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              #46
              I don't discredit Frazier boxing skills, he was a great boxer and could beat many cruiserweight today, I'm sure.

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                #47
                Originally posted by REDEEMER
                Miller wont win a title because Joshua or Wilder ,maybe Fury hold them at the time.

                They aren't 5'11/5'12 200 pounders they are 6'6/plus giants who can box and box great ( well Wilder has Power and length) these guys have the tools to defeat Miller more then a grind style Frazier severly out sized. .
                Il. Still go with the proven atg
                I'll take heart,determination toughness over being bigger any day.
                M Tyson smaller then all those giants you think Aj Wilder Fury beats Mike Tyson
                We never seen Miller tested
                Has he had a moment like Aj and Wilder come back after being hurt ?
                Hell he cant even beat Wilder
                Last edited by Havoctka; 11-21-2018, 01:56 PM.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Havoctka
                  Il. Still go with the proven atg
                  I'll take heart,determination toughness over being bigger any day.
                  M Tyson smaller then all those giants you think Aj Wilder Fury beats Mike Tyson
                  We never seen Miller tested
                  Has he had a moment like Aj and Wilder come back after being hurt ?
                  Hell he cant even beat Wilder
                  You can think whoever you want is going to win but don't think others are that naïve that they wont pick a guy who is 6'4 and weighs 300 pounds who can actually fight over a 205 pounder who has never defeated a power puncher over 210 pounds. If Frazier had fought maybe Lyle it could give some sort of answer but Frazier getting dropped 9 I actually thought he lost to Bonevena ) doesn't hold well with such a giant with a punch.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Havoctka
                    The only fool is you no boxing commission gonna let a fighter with asthma and diabetes get in the ring to fight.let me guess the Miller fight is the first fight you saw in your life on tv. Still waiting to see the photos of Joe struggling to bench 200 pounds
                    One of the dumbest posts if not the dumbest one on here...anyone can look up Mathis health issues throughout his career it was the cause of his obesity. I already provided you with Frazier struggling to lift 140 pounds over his head.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by juggernaut666
                      One of the dumbest posts if not the dumbest one on here...anyone can look up Mathis health issues throughout his career it was the cause of his obesity. I already provided you with Frazier struggling to lift 140 pounds over his head.

                      That poster is bonkers ,he believes the actual commission will ban fighters for high blood pressure ,asthma and diabetes which have no coorelation to being fit to fight . Briggs had asthma and he probably doesn't know Frazier had high blood pressure himself. Frazier had eye problem he hid which would have banned him.

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