The TRUTH about the AJ double standard

[Ray*]

lmaooooooo u guys are too much so nobody should try to fight AJ? hes a piece of the puzzle, all of the top HWs need to fight and aj is one of the top HWs

Who said nobody should try and fight AJ?

[uppercut510]

Who said nobody should try and fight AJ?

so anytime another top HW wants to fight him you equate it with them wanting a pay day instead of them wanting to actually fight the best????? AJ and wilder need to fight, money aside I just think its a good fight to make.

[Ray*]

so anytime another top HW wants to fight him you equate it with them wanting a pay day instead of them wanting to actually fight the best????? AJ and wilder need to fight, money aside I just think its a good fight to make.

Again who said no one should try and fight him? From his 16th fight the guy has stepped up! He didn't wait to be 35-0 before fighting anyone with a pulse, he took risks, if he was 35-0 i would be on his as* giving him sh it for fighting bums like i did with Kell Brook. The easiest thing to do is to sit here and talk about how sh it Martin was or how old Wlad was. Hindsight is 20-20..If they were that sh it then Wilder would have fought them first at that time. He didnt.. Nor did he fight Parker.

Who doesn't want to see AJ/Wilder? We all want to see it. But AJ doesn't need to give anyone any handout! Mayweather didn't but you would still make your biggest payday against him.

We have loads of HW in the division so yes they should all fight each other too, not just wait for AJ to extend his hands, he cannot fight everybody.

Instead of everyone fighting each other, why should we be denied fights that would be great because no one wants to lose due to the AJ sweepstakes?

If Wilder wants the fight we shall see after december 1st. Personally i don't think he wants the AJ fight, PBC obviously want the WBC belt in around them, going overseas to fight AJ for that belt isn't one of the plan, they are finally building Wilder as an american champion..So goodluck with that.

[uppercut510]

Again who said no one should try and fight him? From his 16th fight the guy has stepped up! He didn't wait to be 35-0 before fighting anyone with a pulse, he took risks, if he was 35-0 i would be on his as* giving him sh it for fighting bums like i did with Kell Brook. The easiest thing to do is to sit here and talk about how sh it Martin was or how old Wlad was. Hindsight is 20-20..If they were that sh it then Wilder would have fought them first at that time. He didnt.. Nor did he fight Parker.

Who doesn't want to see AJ/Wilder? We all want to see it. But AJ doesn't need to give anyone any handout! Mayweather didn't but you would still make your biggest payday against him.

We have loads of HW in the division so yes they should all fight each other too, not just wait for AJ to extend his hands, he cannot fight everybody.

Instead of everyone fighting each other, why should we be denied fights that would be great because no one wants to lose due to the AJ sweepstakes?

If Wilder wants the fight we shall see after december 1st. Personally i don't think he wants the AJ fight, PBC obviously want the WBC belt in around them, going overseas to fight AJ for that belt isn't one of the plan, they are finally building Wilder as an american champion..So goodluck with that.

parker ditched the wilder fight to fight AJ, of course it was for bigger money but stop acting like it never happened, I bet you will say you don't recall that right? wilder was supposed to fight pedvtkin as well b4 aj, stop acting like unfortunate situations have not plagued wilder over the past 3 or 4 years with injuries and drug cheats. Wilder is now fighting fury after fighting Ortiz, no matter how you try to down those fights they are good. I don't understand why you guys always make it a point to say this every day. It was Wlad who said Wilder needed to fight someone b4 he fought him but okay ill give you that AJ fought Wlad in a wonderful fight. And he has the better resume of the 2 in less fights. I agree. but hiding behind money and politics as a fan and using it as an excuse to support what hearn did in those negotiations is getting old.

[Scipio2009]

I don't understand what you are trying to say? Joshua did win the 2012 SHW Gold.
What is it about Elizabeth, NJ that you are alluding to?

If Anthony Joshua had been an American kid who had one the gold medal, hailing from a town outside of New York, it would've still taken him 4-5 years to develop into much.

The original poster was under some false impression that the US audience rushes fighters to stardom

[Scipio2009]

I don't understand what you are trying to say? Joshua did win the 2012 SHW Gold.
What is it about Elizabeth, NJ that you are alluding to?

If Anthony Joshua had been an American kid who had one the gold medal, hailing from a town outside of New York, it would've still taken him 4-5 years to develop into much.

The original poster was under some false impression that the US audience rushes fighters to stardom

[lolasif]

It's just how boxing fans tend to be. If you take risks and don't waste time, fans grow to expect more of you and so hold you to a higher standard. If you do the opposite, and spend years padding your record against bums, the fans expectations will eventually be so low, that when you finally achieve something, they will believe it is more impressive.

[Kezzer]

IF he was american, he would already be being called a top 10 ATG heavyweight

They would wax lyrical about the "new rid**** bowe"

Here's the thing, they will NEVER give AJ any credit until he retires and he's no longer a "threat" and then maybe they might give hin some begrudging respect.

Basically what they are saying is after winning 4 belts, beating klitschko, becoming the 2nd biggest draw in boxing is this

"he has to go to america, give in to wilders crazy demands and deal with the vegas judging if he wants any respect from me"

meanwhile Wilder gets respect for doing nothing.

Thing is even if he does that, they will then just change the goalposts

"everyone KNEW Wilder ******, nobody rated him, it's an average win in a **** division"

"prime tyson DESTROYS him"

It won't ever change so to any AJ fans i advise don't get caught in circular communication with these guys, they won't ever change their opinions no matter what he does, so just enjoy his career and ignore these muppets.

If wilder was English he would be the biggest quacker the heavyweight scene had ever scene.

Having said that the majority of boxing fans do actually see that. I will give him some credit though as he has taken on Ortiz and Fury in recent fights. Fury isn’t expected to be much but there is a small risk he wouldn’t have had if he took on a Breazeale or kownacki etc. he does need to keep it high level though and take on the Whytes, etc if he doesn’t take on Joshua next

[iamboxing]

No he wouldn't. American standards are very high when it comes to boxing. American boxing fans are notoriously hard to please and more times than not downright insulting to their own. It takes American boxers years to become popular and have their skills recognised. That's why I admire the likes of Naseem Hamed and Lennox Lewis who were able (AND WILLING) to capture the attention of American audiences. How can you be an ATG if you won't even fight outside your backyard?

[Ray*]

parker ditched the wilder fight to fight AJ, of course it was for bigger money but stop acting like it never happened, I bet you will say you don't recall that right? wilder was supposed to fight pedvtkin as well b4 aj, stop acting like unfortunate situations have not plagued wilder over the past 3 or 4 years with injuries and drug cheats. Wilder is now fighting fury after fighting Ortiz, no matter how you try to down those fights they are good. I don't understand why you guys always make it a point to say this every day. It was Wlad who said Wilder needed to fight someone b4 he fought him but okay ill give you that AJ fought Wlad in a wonderful fight. And he has the better resume of the 2 in less fights. I agree. but hiding behind money and politics as a fan and using it as an excuse to support what hearn did in those negotiations is getting old.

Show me where Team Wilder offered Parker a contract. All I see is excuses why Wilder resume isn’t good for a 10 years pro. The only excuse I would give him would the the Pedtvkin fight. Apart from that he a Champion when Wlad/Parker/Martin was and he never fought anyone of them. But he could fight the Arreolas, Washington’s etc.