Why did Ortiz go quiet and sign another fight instead of Whyte?

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  • Robbie Barrett
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    #101
    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
    How can he be a deserving challenger when he's repeatedly turned down WBC and IBF final eliminators?
    The WBC eliminator is bull****. YOU know it. 2nd mandatory. The first doesn't even know when he'll get a shot.

    He's the most deserving because he's beaten the better fighters than any other challenger. The others have done nothing. Look at Ortiz, back to the absolute bottom of the barrel bums he can get.

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      #102
      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
      I'm not claiming a thing.
      That's a lie. In this very thread you claimed:

      "You're a ******ed fan on the internet that pretends he works in the sport"

      When you wrote that, you knew you had absolutely no way of knowing if what you were writing was true or not. That's how we know you have very little regard for the truth. You didn't write "I don't believe you work in combat sports." If you'd written that, I'd have said, "No problem, have a nice day."

      But instead, you authoritatively declared for a fact that I'm a liar even though I'm not. So, once again I ask, wanna bet?

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        #103
        Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
        The WBC eliminator is bull****. YOU know it. 2nd mandatory. The first doesn't even know when he'll get a shot.

        He's the most deserving because he's beaten the better fighters than any other challenger. The others have done nothing. Look at Ortiz, back to the absolute bottom of the barrel bums he can get.
        He's repeatedly pulled out of multiple final eliminators from multiple organizations. He's not deserving of anything. Anybody with a brain knows he's fighting AJ in April, so to claim he's being ducked is hilarious when he keeps turning down final eliminators.

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          #104
          Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
          He's repeatedly pulled out of multiple final eliminators from multiple organizations. He's not deserving of anything. Anybody with a brain knows he's fighting AJ in April, so to claim he's being ducked is hilarious when he keeps turning down final eliminators.
          Stop trying to mislead people.

          He pulled out of one final eliminator for second mandatory position to fight Parker for far more money.

          Even if he won he would be nowhere near a shot at Wilder because the first mandatory hasn't even got his shot yet.

          And anyway, he's fighting Joshua in April right? Why fight an eliminator for second mandatory when he gets a title shot before the first mandatory, Breazeale, anyway?

          People see through your spin and misinformation.

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            #105
            Whyte and Eddie had no real ideas or intentions of ever fighting Luis Ortiz because he is too much of a risk. They were only using his name as leverage against Chisora at the bargaining table.

            It's the same thing they are doing with Deontay Wilder. They are afraid of fighting the American big boys at heavyweight like: Jarrell "Big Baby" Miller, Luis Ortiz and Deontay Wilder.

            Eddie is only keeping Deontay Wilder's name in his mouth and keep putting him out there just in order to save face with the British fans in particular and the media in general. He is not even remotely or in the least bit interested in fighting Deontay Wilder at this time.

            In short you just can't trust Eddie. I've been following this sport for a long time and in all honesty, I will have to say that Eddie Hearn takes the cake in lying. As a promoter, he is easily the biggest liar that I have ever heard speak.

            In addition, Eddie doesn't won't that work for AJ from fight Deontay Wilder at Wembley on April 13 either. He is constantly laying that jive on Anthony Joshua's gullible fans.

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              #106
              Originally posted by EnglishOxide
              Stop trying to mislead people.
              I'm not misleading anybody. The facts are on my side, so I'm very happy to have my information scrutinized.


              He pulled out of one final eliminator for second mandatory position to fight Parker for far more money.
              You're lying. He also pulled out of an IBF final eliminator.



              Pulev and Whyte were ordered in April by the International Boxing Federation (IBF) to fight to decide the challenger for the IBF world heavyweight title held by Anthony Joshua.

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                #107
                Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                Has Ortiz side claimed they tried to make the fight? Has Ortiz's team said the wanted the fight since the little spat on twitter where they both agreed to fight? In the video a couple of pages back hearn says neither side has contacted the other. Neither fighter was bothered about the fight. It's clear to any non window licker.
                Ortiz told me,that he wanted to smash whyte head. But whyte and hearn didn't want nothing of that. Too risky for them. His translator call and email hearn and left a few messages on behalf of Ortiz. They never respond. That is when they find out, thru the media that chisora was the front runner. I spoke to him while playing dominoes at a mutual friends house.

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                • Zn1
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                  #108
                  When Hearn told Whyte that Ortiz had accepted the fight his reaction was absolutely priceless

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by Zn1
                    When Hearn told Whyte that Ortiz had accepted the fight his reaction was absolutely priceless

                    ^^priceless

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                    • Ray*
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by Phenom
                      Offer made was to fight on Wilder v Fury undercard Whyte said let's fight 12/22 in O2 instead which was Matchroom card and Ortiz agreed publicly

                      Eddie Hearn said they didn't contact Ortiz and even went on to say if no Chisora then Whyte could possibly not fight again until April to not risk AJ fight
                      Forget Hearn, what offer did Team Ortiz make to Team Whyte? Saying we want the fight for the 1st of December doesn’t = making an offer, Team Whyte made Team Wilder an offer, Team Joshua made Wilder an offer, those are actual offers.

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