What happened to Showtime Championship Boxing

[KTFOKING]

you left out benavidez gavril last year. You keep trying to discount joshua but his cards aren't cheap. Without Joshua they have more budget for other fighters. So 3 cards 2015 and 2 in 2016 and 3 in 2017 for SHO vs 1 in 2018.

Do you see a difference?

YOU SPECIFICALLY SAID SHO CHAMPIONSHIP BOXING. The Benavidez/Gavril cards was not that. If Shields/Hammer took place this year, you wouldn't have counted it, and said it wasn't SHO Championship Boxing.

Keep discounting the Joshua card? No, you keep leaving out a very important fact. JOSHUA BECAME A NETWORK FA AND HEARN TOOK HIM TO DAZN. What don't you get? Espinoza tried to keep him but that wasn't going to happen with Hearn having a new platform.

Until he signs a multi-fight deal or indicates a decision to go somewhere else, then I think so,” Espinoza told BoxingScene.com about Showtime having a chance to broadcast future Joshua fights. “We made an aggressive bid on this fight, on the Povetkin fight, as did DAZN. And my understanding is there’s gonna be an opportunity to work with him again after the Povetkin fight and we’ll again bid aggressively for it. You know, he is an elite fighter, a special fighter, and we wanna get as much of that talent on Showtime as we can.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/showtimes-espinoza-hopes-network-air-future-joshua-fights--130496

I'm going to tell you again, just bow out gracefully. This is just getting embarrassing now.

[killakali]

It's not what? And why do you continue bringing up Joshua when that was already addressed?

Again, just move on. The thread didn't go as you anticipated and you started moving the goal posts. Then after that had a few meltdowns. All for what exactly?

You didn't address Joshua. You tried to diminish him. The rights fees to his fights come out of the boxing budget just like an Adrien Broner fight. No difference. You try to pass off his cards like they don't count when you know for a fact they do.

My post to begin with is what is going on at SCB? 3 cards Q4 2015 2 cards Q4 2016 3 cards Q4 2017 and now only 1 in Q4 of 2018.

even without AJ last year they did twice as many cards as this year and would have done a third card with the money they saved by not airing AJ-Takam.

You try to act like its always this way but I have proven its not. Show me when the last time SCB only had 1 card in Q4.

What year was that bro? I am anxious for your answer

[killakali]

Damn, poor IMDAZED just posted that his anus was so stretched out he had to undergo an emergency surgery. I hope that poor bastard can pull through.

[KTFOKING]

You didn't address Joshua. You tried to diminish him. The rights fees to his fights come out of the boxing budget just like an Adrien Broner fight. No difference. You try to pass off his cards like they don't count when you know for a fact they do.

My post to begin with is what is going on at SCB? 3 cards Q4 2015 2 cards Q4 2016 3 cards Q4 2017 and now only 1 in Q4 of 2018.

even without AJ last year they did twice as many cards as this year and would have done a third card with the money they saved by not airing AJ-Takam.

You try to act like its always this way but I have proven its not. Show me when the last time SCB only had 1 card in Q4.

What year was that bro? I am anxious for your answer

Tried to dismiss Joshua? Are you trying to be ****** on purpose? He is dismissed as he wasn't possible to put on in September this year. Are you denying that if there wasn't DAZN he wouldn't have fought on SHO? They slow down every college fball season. That much is proven. You can use the 4th quarter, but you can add September as well since that is the main point made by Espinoza...COLLEGE FOOTBALL season. You made plenty of incorrect statements in this thread that I countered. And you STILL won't admit you were wrong about starting this thread as you just forgot the amount of cards they have put on during this time of the year the past three years. For the last time, move on.

[Bardamu]

you left out benavidez gavril last year. You keep trying to discount joshua but his cards aren't cheap. Without Joshua they have more budget for other fighters. So 3 cards 2015 and 2 in 2016 and 3 in 2017 for SHO vs 1 in 2018.

Do you see a difference?

Pretty sure it has more to do with boxers and PBC than anything to do with Showtime. Showtime and Fox just signed deals with PBC, so I don't think they are turning down any fights.

You are right not paying for AJ could be paid for other fights. But who??? Hearn didn't have a deal with any network, but now he is with DAZN. There really aren't any fighters not with a promoter/network.

[killakali]

Tried to dismiss Joshua? Are you trying to be ****** on purpose? He is dismissed as he wasn't possible to put on in September this year. Are you denying that if there wasn't DAZN he wouldn't have fought on SHO? They slow down every college fball season. That much is proven. You can use the 4th quarter, but you can add September as well since that is the main point made by Espinoza...COLLEGE FOOTBALL season. You made plenty of incorrect statements in this thread that I countered. And you STILL won't admit you were wrong about starting this thread as you just forgot the amount of cards they have put on during this time of the year the past three years. For the last time, move on.

My point was valid yours wasn't.

If Joshua-Povetkin was on SHO then Stevenson-Gvozdyk would be next year. Because that is where the budget went.

So answer my question 2015 3 cards q4, 2016 2 cards q4, 2017 3 cards q4. Don't try to slide in September because that is Q3 and for years SHO would build a fight card around the mayweather and even last year had Benaviddez-Gavril so thats false.

Just answer this question when was the last year SHO just did a single card in the 4th quarter. What year?

[killakali]

Pretty sure it has more to do with boxers and PBC than anything to do with Showtime. Showtime and Fox just signed deals with PBC, so I don't think they are turning down any fights.

You are right not paying for AJ could be paid for other fights. But who??? Hearn didn't have a deal with any network, but now he is with DAZN. There really aren't any fighters not with a promoter/network.

PBC has a ton of fighters who only fought once and would be ready to go in December.

You think that Lara-Castano card couldn't go on 12/15? or 12/8? Lara has been begging for fights. He only fought once this year. Same with Castano. Same with Porter. Same with GRJ. Same with Leo Santa Cruz. He hasn't fought since June. Same with Tank. He done been on the shelf since April. Julian Williams only has one fight this year. Badou Jack only has one fight this year. All these dudes with Haymon or PBC have been shelved and would love to fight.

All those dudes except maybe Porter would have loved to have fought again before the year is over. That doesn't count the guys who fought twice this year but want a third fight either.

[killakali]

Tried to dismiss Joshua? Are you trying to be ****** on purpose? He is dismissed as he wasn't possible to put on in September this year. Are you denying that if there wasn't DAZN he wouldn't have fought on SHO? They slow down every college fball season. That much is proven. You can use the 4th quarter, but you can add September as well since that is the main point made by Espinoza...COLLEGE FOOTBALL season. You made plenty of incorrect statements in this thread that I countered. And you STILL won't admit you were wrong about starting this thread as you just forgot the amount of cards they have put on during this time of the year the past three years. For the last time, move on.

tell me what year it was last time sho had 1 SCB card Q4. What year bro. Was it this decade?

You got me waiting bro. C'mon bro. Everyone wants to know

[champion4ever]

Wrong. That doesn't even make sense thats 2-3 cards every month. If you read that press release that was on this site it says 30 fights not 30 cards. It is 12 cards and budget permitting could grow

Why do 2-3 cards per month doesn't make sense when Eddie Hearn is obligated to put on 32 cards per year; 16 in the states and 16 in the U.K? Al Haymon stable roster is at least twice Matchroom boxing's size. There are only 52 weeks in a year. So therefore, the PBC can do 30 cards or 30 live events a year with Showtime if they want to. Hell even Top Rank is doing 54 live events a year with ESPN.

[KTFOKING]

My point was valid yours wasn't.

If Joshua-Povetkin was on SHO then Stevenson-Gvozdyk would be next year. Because that is where the budget went.

So answer my question 2015 3 cards q4, 2016 2 cards q4, 2017 3 cards q4. Don't try to slide in September because that is Q3 and for years SHO would build a fight card around the mayweather and even last year had Benaviddez-Gavril so thats false.

Just answer this question when was the last year SHO just did a single card in the 4th quarter. What year?

Your point wasn't valid at all. You first tried to include a NON-SHO Championship Boxing fight when you specifically mentioned SHO Championship Boxing. You then tried to make stuff up by saying they had a card on every month to end the year, which was proven incorrect. Then you tried to say well, I meant on average! Yeah, on average! Then you tried to ignore the Joshua situation as if SHO didn't try to air his Povetkin fight. You then ignored SHO Championship Boxing not putting on any fights in September in 2016/2017 while putting on the Porter/DSG fight this year. So yeah, if Joshua was still under contract, they would have had the same amount of shows as they did last year and one more than they had in 2016 during college football season.

You are so deep in this that it is just impossible for you to get now huh? That is why you keep trying argue and then go on random outbursts. Move TF on.