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  • Bardamu
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    #91
    Originally posted by killakali
    PBC has a ton of fighters who only fought once and would be ready to go in December.

    You think that Lara-Castano card couldn't go on 12/15? or 12/8? Lara has been begging for fights. He only fought once this year. Same with Castano. Same with Porter. Same with GRJ. Same with Leo Santa Cruz. He hasn't fought since June. Same with Tank. He done been on the shelf since April. Julian Williams only has one fight this year. Badou Jack only has one fight this year. All these dudes with Haymon or PBC have been shelved and would love to fight.

    All those dudes except maybe Porter would have loved to have fought again before the year is over. That doesn't count the guys who fought twice this year but want a third fight either.
    That may be true. The question is why has Haymon and PBC not offered any fights to Showtime then? What fight or fights has Showtime refused to air? If Showtime has not been offered any fights, I fail to see how they are to blame. It sounds more like a problem with PBC than it does with Showtime.

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    • killakali
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      #92
      Originally posted by champion4ever
      Why do 2-3 cards per month doesn't make sense when Eddie Hearn is obligated to put on 32 cards per year; 16 in the states and 16 in the U.K? Al Haymon stable roster is at least twice Matchroom boxing's size. There are only 52 weeks in a year. So therefore, the PBC can do 30 cards or 30 live events a year with Showtime if they want to. Hell even Top Rank is doing 54 live events a year with ESPN.
      The Showtime deal is 30 fights which is 12 cards. Showtime isn't a sports station. they aren't showing 30 live PBC events and another 12-18 Shobox cards. They aren't THAT into boxing LOL.

      It is a monthly show on SHO next year has been reported by Coppinger and Rafael

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      • killakali
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        #93
        Originally posted by Bardamu
        That may be true. The question is why has Haymon and PBC not offered any fights to Showtime then? What fight or fights has Showtime refused to air? If Showtime has not been offered any fights, I fail to see how they are to blame. It sounds more like a problem with PBC than it does with Showtime.
        Who said Haymon didn't offer them? Showtime has blown through their budget. I am sure that a lot of SHO's budget is subsidizing Wilder-Fury

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        • killakali
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          #94
          Originally posted by KTFOKING
          Your point wasn't valid at all. You first tried to include a NON-SHO Championship Boxing fight when you specifically mentioned SHO Championship Boxing. You then tried to make stuff up by saying they had a card on every month to end the year, which was proven incorrect. Then you tried to say well, I meant on average! Yeah, on average! Then you tried to ignore the Joshua situation as if SHO didn't try to air his Povetkin fight. You then ignored SHO Championship Boxing not putting on any fights in September in 2016/2017 while putting on the Porter/DSG fight this year. So yeah, if Joshua was still under contract, they would have had the same amount of shows as they did last year and one more than they had in 2016 during college football season.

          You are so deep in this that it is just impossible for you to get now huh? That is why you keep trying argue and then go on random outbursts. Move TF on.
          We await your answer very patiently. When was the last year SHO broadcasted only 1 SCB card in Q4. Bro we want to know!!

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          • killakali
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            #95
            Originally posted by KTFOKING
            Your point wasn't valid at all. You first tried to include a NON-SHO Championship Boxing fight when you specifically mentioned SHO Championship Boxing. You then tried to make stuff up by saying they had a card on every month to end the year, which was proven incorrect. Then you tried to say well, I meant on average! Yeah, on average! Then you tried to ignore the Joshua situation as if SHO didn't try to air his Povetkin fight. You then ignored SHO Championship Boxing not putting on any fights in September in 2016/2017 while putting on the Porter/DSG fight this year. So yeah, if Joshua was still under contract, they would have had the same amount of shows as they did last year and one more than they had in 2016 during college football season.

            You are so deep in this that it is just impossible for you to get now huh? That is why you keep trying argue and then go on random outbursts. Move TF on.
            WHY isn't that money that was earmarked for Joshua-Povetkin not used for another card this Q4? Bro you have all the answers. Let's see how you SPIN THIS.

            And for the 5th time, What was the last year SHO had ONE SCB card in Q4? We still need that answer fam!!

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              #96
              Originally posted by killakali
              The Showtime deal is 30 fights which is 12 cards. Showtime isn't a sports station. they aren't showing 30 live PBC events and another 12-18 Shobox cards. They aren't THAT into boxing LOL.

              It is a monthly show on SHO next year has been reported by Coppinger and Rafael
              Well how many boxing cards did Showtime broadcast this year? My estimations and sources say that the number was more than 30.

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              • Bardamu
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                #97
                Originally posted by killakali
                Who said Haymon didn't offer them? Showtime has blown through their budget. I am sure that a lot of SHO's budget is subsidizing Wilder-Fury
                Do you have some evidence, did someone report that Haymon offered fights to Showtime and they turned it down? What fights did Haymon offer? Won't they be announced for next year, pretty soon?

                Also, I'm pretty sure Showtime is making a pretty penny from the Wilder-Fury fight. That is going to make them money, not cost them.

                Maybe Showtime has blown through their budget, maybe PBC has wanted fights, but Showtime turned them down, but to just accuse them of that, with absolutely no evidence whatsoever, makes zero sense.

                You act like PBC is offering Showtime all these fights and that everyone knows it. The only PBC fights I've even been hearing about are all ppv. Who else is supposed to fight this year? What are these fights that us fans would have, if only someone would air them?

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by killakali
                  What happened to Showtime Championship Boxing?

                  They work with the PBC. They need the long breaks to plan out fights that make no sense and that nobody cares about.


                  Hey instead of Crawford vs Spence and Mikey vs Loma, lets stick a fork in a toaster and wreck any opportunity of either of them.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by killakali
                    I am sure that a lot of SHO's budget is subsidizing Wilder-Fury
                    You were also sure Haymon had nothing to do with Danny Jacobs, only for Jacobs' manager to come forward the next day to say that Haymon plays a daily role in Jacobs' career.

                    You then admitted you're just some random Mexican fan that doesn't know anyone or anything.

                    Yet now you're "sure" that "a lot of SHO's budget is subsidizing Wilder-Fury" even though that's not how PPVs work at all. It's hilarious how wrong you are day in and day out.

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                    • KTFOKING
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by killakali
                      WHY isn't that money that was earmarked for Joshua-Povetkin not used for another card this Q4? Bro you have all the answers. Let's see how you SPIN THIS.

                      And for the 5th time, What was the last year SHO had ONE SCB card in Q4? We still need that answer fam!!
                      All the data has been presented to you. And it is fact that this year is no different than what we have seen the last two years during college football season. That is a fact. Only reason the Joshua fight in September wasn't on SHO is because his contract was up. The $2 million rights fees or whatever it was for the Joshua/Povetkin fight isn't even half of the average card on SHO. Why are you acting like that was a earth shattering amount or something?

                      And this conversation is officially over. You choose to believe what you want to.

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