What happened to Showtime Championship Boxing

[KTFOKING]

wrong. The new fox deal is 10 Fox and 12 FS1 cards a year plus 12 SHO cards.

The end of the year is usually busy. Sho Championship Boxing had cards every month end of last year so that is an incorrect statement.

I will agree that I believe all these PPVs show is about to put on aren't going to make enough revenue to pay for themselves so Showtime is putting part of their budget to help finance the ppvs. That is very bad for us fans because it takes away from our $10 a month Sho subscription we already pay for as they bank on the fact that they hope we can be suckered to pay that $10 then another $79.99 for PPVs that have a good main event and mismatches like Hurd, Ortiz, and Joyce filling out the card.

What happened is fights that aren't ppv worthy are too expensive for SHO Championship Boxing and they are splitting their budget between financing events and trying to recoup part of the money via ppv

You're going to tell someone they are inaccurate when you say something inaccurate yourself? My goodness dude, do just a bit of research that's all you need to do.

http://www.sho.com/sports/fights

Last card was on November 4th. Then the next SHO card was Spence/Peterson in January. Stop embarrassing yourself now. Just admit you tried to be slick making this thread and quickly realized you were wrong but are too ignorant to admit you were wrong.

[killakali]

No, it's not wrong. YOU are wrong. From September to the end of the year, they put on the October 14 card and then Wilder/Stiverne 2. The Joshua/Takam fight isn't something that was "forgotten," it was just an international fight picked up by SHO as they had a deal with Joshua. Guess what? Joshua has gone to DAZN. If he was still with SHO, then they would have shown that fight as well and ended up with the same amount of cards from September to the end of the year as they did last year. This year they went Garcia/Porter in September, and then will go with Stevenson/Gvozdyk on December 1 along with the Wilder PPV.

This isn't far off of what they did last year and the year prior. I believe in 2016 he only put on one card from September on along with the Joshua/Molina fight. And Espinoza as stated isn't afraid to let the world know this is what he always plans to do as he doesn't like to go against college football.

You tried to be slick with this thread and quickly realized you were wrong...again.

Wrong again. See you are just not very bright son. lets look at SHO 2017 to explain how mentally challenged you are.


September 8th Benavidez vs Gavril 1
Same time of year as this year's Garcia-Porter. So let's examine after that: October 14th is the SHO tripleheader you speak about. So that is one card after September which is the same amount of cards that Showtime is doing this year FOR the 2nd Half of September UNTIL AT LEAST MID January.

Then SHO paid CLOSE TO A 2 MILLION license fee for AJ-Takam to outbid HBO for the October showdown. With no more AJ then SHO could have bought a different card for that money. That is more money than they paid for the whole Benavidez-Gavril 1 card.

Then SHO had the Stiverne-Wilder 2 card.

So last year Showtime had 3 multi-million license fees cards over the last 3 months of the year. This year they have one. So they had 3x as many cards in q4 last year than this year.

Don't get it twisted. They cut back this year.

I think we can see why. They are stealing from their budget for SHO Championship Boxing to pay for these low selling ppvs that can't cover the whole purses of the main events. So we get less for our SHO subscription and have to pay out extra for the PPV fights that aren't really ppv level

[killakali]

As always with this guy. He’s a network fanboy

You mean its right. 3 SHO championship boxing cards Oct-Dec last year and 1 this year. For a ****** like you just take your socks off and count your toes. 3-1 equals 2 more cards SHO Q4 2017 vs 2018.

They are using their budget to finance fights that are too expensive for SHO but not big enough to be PPV successes.

[killakali]

So in total, how many cards do the PBC have with Showtime under this new deal? The last I checked, it was rumored to be 30.

Wrong. That doesn't even make sense thats 2-3 cards every month. If you read that press release that was on this site it says 30 fights not 30 cards. It is 12 cards and budget permitting could grow

[richardt]

Moron alert. They won't be fighting for championships on SHO Championship Boxing. Get some comprehension skills idiota. I said the guys on SHOBOX are NOT part of PBC. Those guys will go on to other networks for the most part

Mental midget alert! I showed facts that over 75 fighters went on to become world champions! I was not discussing Showtime championship boxing, I was talking about ShoBox and the value of prospects becoming contenders and then champions! It is not just about championships, it's about fighters on the way up becoming top fighters. And this WILL continue as more fighters build their resume's on ShoBox. I brought the subject up of ShoBox so get over it.

[killakali]

Has Jacobs’ manager commented on the false quotes BoxingScene used yet?

Al Haymon's bottom boy ****** snuck in here. What's up puto? I said was told to use the quotes u invented the part about them being false quotes. Maricon u should come down her to LA and meet up with us and lets see what you say then pendejo.

[killakali]

Like take the time to do some research please. From September on when college football starts, SHO boxing becomes pretty much a ghost. Especially now with Floyd retired. In 2016 they put on July 30, and only had one the rest of the way which was on December 10. That's it! None on October or November. What does Espinoza do last year? Puts his LAST card of the year on November 4th and puts one more on October. Obviously also included the Joshua fight but that was an international fight. So what does it look like this year? A card in September, none in October/November and one in December to go along with the PPV. You go to back all the way to 2015 the last time he had a live card on October/November/December.

International fight with a 2 million dollar budget son. I just have to keep sonning you guys. That wasn't some low budget international fight like Linares-Crolla. There was a bidding war with HBO to get the rights to that Joshua fight if you were paying attention. That could have paid for another SCB card.

Again last year SHO had 3 multi million dollar cards OCT-DEC. This year its once. So yes that is a cut back no matter how you look at it

[killakali]

I mean those are just Frank Warren cards picked up by TR. They aren't doing any co-promoting. They have nothing to do with the card except putting it on ESPN+ after paying a rights fee.

exactly. Top Rank is putting on the most shows a year. 30 of their own plus at least 24 international that they choose which to buy. They have all the Warren, Zanfer and Teiken cards that take place on foreign soil on lock.

DAZN comes in 2nd place with 32 Matchroom cards, 12 GBP promtions card and then the WBSS cards.

Then PBC comes in with 12 SHO cards, 10 Fox cards and 12 FS1 cards for 34 cards. I haven't read anywhere if Bounce is going to do their quarterly show in 2019. If so then they have 38 next year to come in third place.

Still you add all that up and its a ton of boxing in the US plus Main Events small deal and whatever small cards GBP does off DAZN

[KTFOKING]

Wrong again. See you are just not very bright son. lets look at SHO 2017 to explain how mentally challenged you are.


September 8th Benavidez vs Gavril 1
Same time of year as this year's Garcia-Porter. So let's examine after that: October 14th is the SHO tripleheader you speak about. So that is one card after September which is the same amount of cards that Showtime is doing this year FOR the 2nd Half of September UNTIL AT LEAST MID January.

Then SHO paid CLOSE TO A 2 MILLION license fee for AJ-Takam to outbid HBO for the October showdown. With no more AJ then SHO could have bought a different card for that money. That is more money than they paid for the whole Benavidez-Gavril 1 card.

Then SHO had the Stiverne-Wilder 2 card.

So last year Showtime had 3 multi-million license fees cards over the last 3 months of the year. This year they have one. So they had 3x as many cards in q4 last year than this year.

Don't get it twisted. They cut back this year.

I think we can see why. They are stealing from their budget for SHO Championship Boxing to pay for these low selling ppvs that can't cover the whole purses of the main events. So we get less for our SHO subscription and have to pay out extra for the PPV fights that aren't really ppv level

Lol no. Now you once again are trying to be slick. The Benavidez/Gavril fight took place on a Friday. That fight was NOT considered SHO championship boxing. Nice try once again, but no. And if the Shields/Hammer card wasn't scrapped, that would have gone on November 17. You surely would have counted that if you did the Benavidez/Gavril card right?

What don't you understand about Joshua? HE WENT TO DAZN. Espinoza still tried to put that fight on but obviously it wasn't going to happen. If Joshua was still under contract, are you telling me that fight wouldn't have taken place on SHO?

You are now just embarrassing yourself. Again, just bow out of this thread gracefully. It is okay to admit you tried to be slick and it backfired on you.

[killakali]

There was a tweet last week saying there wilp be 26 shows between FOX-FS1. But later in the year are usually light months.

Also, no way their PBC PPVs will be $80. If PPVs are what they're gonna be doin, they will lower the price. They'd have too. I wouldn't be surprised with a $39.99 price tag.

you know they won't be $39.99. They will be at least 59.99 in HD and most likely 79.99 Sales at 79.99 vs 59.99 won't differ much so they would rather squeeze out as much as they can from the fans to recognize revenue.

Don't go by tweets. Go by the PBC press release. 22 cards between Fox and FS1