Comments Thread For: The Growing Number of 'Champions' is Maddening

[Shadoww702]

So which sanctioning authority is legitimate? Is the WBC more credible than the WBO or IBO? If so, why exactly?

WBC used to be the best but not anymore.


1. IBF
2. WBC - Canelo lil bi@tch and those ****** sht belts they make.

The rest sht

3. WBO - Owned by Bob Arum who could get a ham sandwich ranked.
Has ranked dead ppl before. *** even moved him up in the rankings.
Super Champion Titles.
Google Ricardo Lopez
NO PED Policy

4. WBA -
Plaqued with corruption.
Super Champion
World Champion
Champion in Recess
Interim Champion
Ranked Ali Raymi number 6 and then number 11 after his death.

[Shadoww702]

fighters and promoters need to boycott the WBA, that regular champion nonsense is the worst part of it all.

Yup I just posted why they are the worst.

[Bardamu]

So which sanctioning authority is legitimate? Is the WBC more credible than the WBO or IBO? If so, why exactly?

Yes, the WBC is much more legitimate than the WBO and/or the IBO.

First off is history. The WBC has always been recognized as a legitimate title. The WBO was finally recognized by enough media to be considered an "official major" title in the late 1990's. The IBO still isn't recognized as a major title.

Second, the WBC mandates all its ranked (top 15 per division) fighters be enrolled in year-round, random drug testing administered by VADA. The WBO and IBO do not. Because that costs money and all they care about is making money.

Third, the WBC clearly does occasionally take bribes or at the very least, plays favorites. However, they do try and make the best fights. They have ordered such fights as Stevenson-Kov, Thurman-Porter, Porter-Garcia, Canelo-g (twice!), and many others.

Fourth, just look at the WBO's rankings and champions. Honestly, just look at them. Ito is "champ" in a division with berchelt, davis, and Farmer. Pedraza is over Mikey and Loma at 135. Somebody named Maurice Hooker is at 140. Mungai is in a division with Lara, Hurd, and Jermell Charlo. They have Andrade fighting a complete no-name for a vacant title. The wbo doesn't even try to hide that it is corrupt and bases their rankings solely on bribes. As for the IBO, that is fake, so I'm not even going to get into that.

[Rock&Roll]

The point of the article went completely over your head it seems & at least the ibo doesn't give out interim & regular titles like the others do. They are arguably the most legitimate despite not having the best champions.

HOLD UP THERE SON..
The point the poster you just quoted was making went completely over your head.

The article states:
"Promoters, writers and other boxing people recognize to various degrees the champions of five “major” sanctioning bodies – the IBF, IBO, WBA, WBC and WBO – as legitimate world titleholders, which is ridiculous if you look at the numbers."

This article is PROPAGANDA - AT IT'S BEST!!!
Why you ask?
If propaganda is made out to be propaganda, it will be pointed out, dismissed, ridiculed and ignored. This website would be made to look like fools, and people would call them out for publishing junk articles with an obvious agenda.

This article slipped a FIVE abc's (not the established and accepted 4 we all know) with ibo in there - at the same time as criticizing the system. NO ONE suspects the person who is criticizing to actually be the person who is promoting a number 5 abc and attempting to legitimize it and give it credability.

PROPOGANDA works best when the people reading don't make it out to be so, and that is exactly what this article has achieved. An agenda has been pushed and few, like yourself, realize what has happened.

Well done boxing scene, you bunch of fckin c-nts!
You are aiding in the demise of the sport which we love, and you rely on. Also called biting off the hand that feeds you.

[Bardamu]

WBC used to be the best but not anymore.


1. IBF
2. WBC - Canelo lil bi@tch and those ****** sht belts they make.

The rest sht

3. WBO - Owned by Bob Arum who could get a ham sandwich ranked.
Has ranked dead ppl before. *** even moved him up in the rankings.
Super Champion Titles.
Google Ricardo Lopez
NO PED Policy

4. WBA -
Plaqued with corruption.
Super Champion
World Champion
Champion in Recess
Interim Champion
Ranked Ali Raymi number 6 and then number 11 after his death.

Possibly the most intelligent, common sense post ever on BS.

[Eff Pandas]

So which sanctioning authority is legitimate? Is the WBC more credible than the WBO or IBO? If so, why exactly?

I didn't say any of them were.

Ideally if you kill them you just have a 2, 4 or 8 man tournament depending on how deep the division is to determine the new champion.

More likely if some media would do some investigative journalism into each of these groups maybe we can end one or more of them &/or get boxings power brokers to not wanna deal with them in the future & put one or more outta business. That would make 1 or more belts the one(s) that matter. Personnally I don't think any group is all that superior than the other so you aren't going to be able to decide one is the best. You need to destroy the ones doing the most f#cked up sh^t behind the scenes cuz I think we all believe these groups are corrupt or incompetent.

[New England]

It's a good article. The only point I'd disagree with is that Michael Rosenthal doesn't name the sanctioning bodies for what they are. Understandably so, no doubt he has friends amongst them.

The sanctioning bodies are essentially parasitic, drawing sanctioning fees from fighters and serving the interests of various promoters. They're complicit in the devaluation of the title of champion until its become virtually meaningless.

they also inflate hugely the purses of fighters who fight for their "championship." they're not parasites, they're symbiotic organisms and they work for promotors and sometimes casinos and TV networks.

it makes a big, big difference when you promote a fight as a "world title" bout. casual fans don't know the have 4-5 belts in each division, that the WBA sometimes has three champions of its own, etc. they see "world champion," and they decide to head to the casinos on night when they normally would not. fighters like them, promoters like them, they're good for business. they can give you an easy fight. or they can get you in line for a world title and a payday.

they're bad for us, however. we suffer as fans, that much is unequivocal. they keep the best fights from happening. they keep the titles in hands of undeserving fighters.

but let's also not forget the reality of this sport: you can't fight hte best fighters one after the other for years and expect to talk and walk normally in your 60's.

[GhostofDempsey]

Not only is there a problem with too many sanctioning bodies, but each one has their regular champ, super champ, world champ, or whatever classification of champion they can develop for more belts which = more title fights and higher sanctioning fees.

[gioberi]

There are too many titles so why dont we solve it by adding another one. Only purpose of this article is to promote IBO as another major organization. Corrupt f-cking journalism.

[iamboxing]

IBO = DOG sht!

from their own site.

The champion may defend against an opponent from the hightest 35 ranked boxers.

Listen to this BS!!!

The President of the IBO may attend each sanctioned bout. The Promotor shall provide the president and fight commisioner with FIRST class airline tickets to the site and room and board. And shall provide seats on the ring apron for the President and commissioner.

Yeah that dont sound shady as ***!
And I dont even think the IBO does drug testing?

sounds like he drafted those terms himself lol