are there any fighters left who fight for...

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

No fighter has to take any fight. Ortiz never beat anyone of note and Fury hasn't beat anyone since Klitschko he's also gained and lost 100+lbs in that time. Usyk didn't have to fight the guys in the CW tournie, Same at SMW. Canelo/Golovkin didn't have to fight each other. You made up a ****** stipulation to try and give Wilder more credit than he deserves. If you don't think Haymon had any influence in Wilder fighting Ortiz you're even more ******, Haymon promised Ortiz a title shot and got him one.

So you’ve FAILED in answering the question.
You FAILED in labelling me a Wilder fan.
“How can I get myself out of this one” you think inside you’re little mind. “I can’t bash Wilder so... I’ll bash his opponents”. Really?
It’s just embarrassing get a life you sad little kid.
Ortiz is legit a top 5 HW, and Fury was the guy who completely outboxed AJ’s best win. And btw that was before he was 41, 18 months inactive and coming off a loss.🤣🤣

Keep trying kid, 0-5 so far😆😆😆

[Robbie Barrett]

So you’ve FAILED in answering the question.
You FAILED in labelling me a Wilder fan.
“How can I get myself out of this one” you think inside you’re little mind. “I can’t bash Wilder so... I’ll bash his opponents”. Really?
It’s just embarrassing get a life you sad little kid.
Ortiz is legit a top 5 HW, and Fury was the guy who completely outboxed AJ’s best win. And btw that was before he was 41, 18 months inactive and coming off a loss.����

Keep trying kid, 0-5 so far������

You can try and play little games all you want and pretend you're "winning". There's plenty of fighters that have better wins than Wilder over the last couple of years, including Joshua. But that's off topic anyway. Your claim was Wilder only cares about Honour/Legacy which is complete nonsense.

[TonyGe]

legacy and honor?

i seem to remember awhile back this was a big thing

what seems like many moons ago now pac was out there telling floyd "lets fight for free...i fight for legacy and pride and honor"...even though like no guy has really ever fought for free....fans cheered "you go pac you tell him...cmon floyd take that fight...fight for charity"!!!!

then a few years later there was a young future superstar making his way through the weight classes...still growing...he was still a pup relatively...he wasnt too keen on jumping right up and facing a p4p top 5 rated career MW right away

this young future star found some lucrative fights in the meantime and continued to build his profile.....for the sake of story telling lets give this a guy a name...and call him "canelo".....while canelo made the career MW wait...he was called a vagina(this is the name for a part of the female sexual anatomy...which i dont think many golovkin fans have ever seen aside from sliding out of their own mother)..he was called a chicken....many unflattering names....people questioned whether or not he had testicles and demanded "hey you chicken..you yellow chicken!!! why dont u fight for legacy and be a man .....stop letting business make your decisions"

strangely enough during this time that same man i just mentioned, golovkin, began stalking this canelo guy...it was weird......this golovkin guy was bringing up welterweights two classes, fighting lyft drivers and even fighting a guy on home confinement(ankle ***erly and all) for hitting a woman!!!!

a career defining fight with andre ward seemed plausible as ward contacted golovkins team about a fight in the near future while offering golovkin a chance to get acclimated to a higher weight class......despite golovkin not having a career defining fight, let alone win, golovkin fans excused him swerving this "american coward" by sighting a more lucrative fight with canelo in the future and calling it "smart business".......it seems right about this time fighting for "legacy and pride" died and went right out the window

so i ask...are there any guys left that fight for that stuff? or is that just completely dead?

and before some of you guys go mentioning anthony joshua turning down 50 mil because he wanted to fight for his fans you cant have that...cause AJ also then went and challenged his fans to train and fight wilder themselves because its not that easy he said....so you while i know you want to point to AJ's generosity and care for his beloved fans....he kinda did a 180 literally within like a week or two...so you cant use that one

anyways....anyone got any fighters? or are we all in on making money and smart business decisions now?

Were there ever fighters that meet all the requirements you set out. Don't think so. You must have someone in mind. Sounds to me your afraid of giving a name because you don't want to be ridiculed.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Many of whom wound up broke and destitute. If you focus on the money, you'll take the fights that bring the money, and fights bring money because fans want them. So legacy will come. But if legacy is your focus, you're liable to wound up broken down and broke as well.

This isn't rocket science, brain surgery, or cancer research. It's entertainment. Frivolous nonsense. Make your money, save your money, and leave. You don't owe the fans anything. They pay for the fight. You fight. End of transaction.

Some things in life are more important than money...
Ali had a greater impact on the world than any amount of money can buy.
I’m all for fighters getting out healthy, but this sport is BRUTAL.
It’s not just entertainment it’s so much more than that. Fights like Johnson-Jeffries, Louis-Schmeling II etc weren’t about “entertainment”. They were MUCH deeper than that.

You’re view on this is very narrow minded.
End of transaction.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

You can try and play little games all you want and pretend you're "winning". There's plenty of fighters that have better wins than Wilder over the last couple of years, including Joshua. But that's off topic anyway. Your claim was Wilder only cares about Honour/Legacy which is complete nonsense.

As you’re clearly disabled you obviously can’t read coherently.😂😂

I said Wilder fighting two tough VOLUNTARY’s back to back was very “honourable”. Which it is.

You challenged that opinion, so I asked you to provide another fighter who had taken on two tougher voluntary’s in the last few years.
You FAILED to do so.

Proving me RIGHT and you WRONG.

Better luck next time kid...🤣

[Robbie Barrett]

As you’re clearly disabled you obviously can’t read coherently.😂😂

I said Wilder fighting two tough VOLUNTARY’s back to back was very “honourable”. Which it is.

You challenged that opinion, so I asked you to provide another fighter who had taken on two tougher voluntary’s in the last few years.
You FAILED to do so.

Proving me RIGHT and you WRONG.

Better luck next time kid...🤣

Joshua has two better voluntaries. Klitschko and Parker.

The thread is about fighters that care more about legacy and honour. Wilder isn't one.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Joshua has two better voluntaries. Klitschko and Parker.

The thread is about fighters that care more about legacy and honour. Wilder isn't one.

Klitschko and Parker we’re unifications����
Learn about the game kid!

Ortiz beats Parker and Fury beat Klitschko(before he was 41, 18 months inactive and coming off a loss)

Try harder next time kid...

Look I’m not interested in this whole AJ/Wilder comparison BS it’s tedious.
I was just giving Wilder some credit for taking on two tough voluntary’s back to back to back. The same way I would give AJ credit for taking on a tough fight in April as opposed to some regurgitated rematch with Whyte.
If you were a genuine boxing fan you would be able to do the same.
But unfortunately you are not...

[Robbie Barrett]

Klitschko and Parker we’re unifications����
Learn about the game kid!

Ortiz beats Parker and Fury beat Klitschko(before he was 41, 18 months inactive and coming off a loss)

Try harder next time kid...

Look I’m not interested in this whole AJ/Wilder comparison BS it’s tedious.
I was just giving Wilder some credit for taking on to tough voluntary’s back to back to back. The same way I would give AJ credit for taking on a tough fight in April as opposed to some regurgitated rematch with Whyte.
If you were a genuine boxing fan you would be able to do the same.
But unfortunately you are not...

Unifications are voluntaries you ******, nobody forces them.

Ortiz has beat nobody. Fury isn't the fighter he was. Try again fool.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Unifications are voluntaries you ******, nobody forces them.

Ortiz has beat nobody. Fury isn't the fighter he was. Try again fool.

Unifications are not voluntaries😂😂 they’re completely different.
Ortiz’s win over Jennings is better than any of Parker’s wins. And Klitschko was far from the fighter he once was against AJ.
But it’s all besides the point.

As a genuine boxing fan, I am able to give Wilder credit for taking on two back to back tough voluntary’s. Whilst as you are that anti-Wilder you are blinded by hate and unable to do so.
It’s embarrassing, get a life!

[Robbie Barrett]

Unifications are not voluntaries😂😂 they’re completely different.
Ortiz’s win over Jennings is better than any of Parker’s wins. And Klitschko was far from the fighter he once was against AJ.
But it’s all besides the point.

As a genuine boxing fan, I am able to give Wilder credit for taking on two back to back tough voluntary’s. Whilst as you are that anti-Wilder you are blinded by hate and unable to do so.
It’s embarrassing, get a life!

Unifications are the definition of voluntary. They volunteer to fight each other.

Wilder avoided the only voluntary people are interested in. Joshua.

You made this thread about resumes after i pointed out how ****** you were for naming Wilder.