are there any fighters left who fight for...

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

it's show business. it exists to separate the public from their money.

legacy and honor are for fools. maximize your earnings, invest wisely and get out early.

everyone should be striving to be andre ward.

Andre Ward???
As much as I dislike him Floyd is a much better example.
It’s not about getting out “early” it’s about getting out secure and healthy. But some honourable men are willing to sacrifice that for legacy. Which should be respected.

Legacy certainly isn’t for “fools” it’s for honourable men who still admire, respect and have burning passion for this sport. Seriously man, that’s so disrespectful to some of the all time greats of the past.

Muhammad Ali’s legacy will always surpass anything people like Floyd or Ward have. Ali will be remember as one of the most transcendent figures of the 20th century, a man that pushed through social and racial boundaries. While Floyd and Ward will be remembered as successful boxers and businessmen.
I know who’s life I’d rather have lived.

[champion4ever]

Wilder who says if he beats Fury he deserves 60% against Joshua? You clowns.

The fact is Wilder is not a money fighter. He was willing to accept the $15 mil flat fee Matchroom offered him and also fighting Anthony Joshua on foreign soil; Even after offering him a chance at a career high earning of $80 Mil in which of course AJ turned down.

In addition, Wilder challenged and defeated Luis Ortiz; A man who British heavyweights, including Britain's very own unified heavyweight champion Anthony Joshua are afraid of fighting for short money. This was after he popped for PEDS but gave him a second chance anyway.

If that's not fighting for honor, glory and pride then I don't know what is.

[Marchegiano]

I don't know really. Wilder could have accepted Joshua's deal even if it was ****. Crawford went undisputed but all of a sudden he's having a hard time making fights. I like to think Loma and Usyk do what they do for more than money, but they really haven't had to choose yet. When Usyk goes into HW if he gets control of Wilder's belt or AJ's belts and starts having a hard time making fights I can't say I'll be surprised.

Canelo's alright, but he seems to benefit from people going after him, similar to Joshua, rather than him going after them. I'm not saying Canelo was ever avoiding any of them so much as he hasn't had the opportunity to be the hunter since he fought Mayweather.

I think Joshua chose money over greatness when he fought Martin. You can probably still find articles on this site that covers it, but if your remember Joshua's first response to Martin was that he wanted to take a more normal career path, fight an eliminator ( Takam ) and maybe a couple more build up fights then fight for the title. It wasn't until after Hearn explained how much more money they could make as champion that Joshua wanted to fight. That's coming from Hearn and Joshua themselves.

Joshua and Wilder should fight for to fund children's cancer research centers. That shiz is expensive because the materials they're exploring are extremely rare. Obviously because we've exhausted less rare materials sometime ago and still have no cure of even very good treatment. If these guys want to prove they're about legacy they'll put on the biggest charity event boxing has ever seen and save some babies.

Cool thread. I can't hardly think of anyone that I reckon sure fire cares more about legacy than money.

[Marchegiano]

it's show business. it exists to separate the public from their money.

legacy and honor are for fools. maximize your earnings, invest wisely and get out early.

everyone should be striving to be andre ward.

Hey, Marciano is the archetype.....capeesh

[Robbie Barrett]

The fact is Wilder is not a money fighter. He was willing to accept the $15 mil flat fee Matchroom offered him and also fighting Anthony Joshua on foreign soil; Even after offering him a chance at a career high earning of $80 Mil in which of course AJ turned down.

In addition, Wilder challenged and defeated Luis Ortiz; A man who British heavyweights, including Britain's very own unified heavyweight champion Anthony Joshua are afraid of fighting for short money. This was after he popped for PEDS but gave him a second chance anyway.

If that's not fighting for honor, glory and pride then I don't know what is.

The whole negotiations with Joshua have been about Wilder wanting more money. Stop talking bollocks. It's all about money for Wilder.

[champion4ever]

I don't know really. Wilder could have accepted Joshua's deal even if it was ****. Crawford went undisputed but all of a sudden he's having a hard time making fights. I like to think Loma and Usyk do what they do for more than money, but they really haven't had to choose yet. When Usyk goes into HW if he gets control of Wilder's belt or AJ's belts and starts having a hard time making fights I can't say I'll be surprised.

Canelo's alright, but he seems to benefit from people going after him, similar to Joshua, rather than him going after them. I'm not saying Canelo was ever avoiding any of them so much as he hasn't had the opportunity to be the hunter since he fought Mayweather.

I think Joshua chose money over greatness when he fought Martin. You can probably still find articles on this site that covers it, but if your remember Joshua's first response to Martin was that he wanted to take a more normal career path, fight an eliminator ( Takam ) and maybe a couple more build up fights then fight for the title. It wasn't until after Hearn explained how much more money they could make as champion that Joshua wanted to fight. That's coming from Hearn and Joshua themselves.

Joshua and Wilder should fight for to fund children's cancer research centers. That shiz is expensive because the materials they're exploring are extremely rare. Obviously because we've exhausted less rare materials sometime ago and still have no cure of even very good treatment. If these guys want to prove they're about legacy they'll put on the biggest charity event boxing has ever seen and save some babies.

Cool thread. I can't hardly think of anyone that I reckon sure fire cares more about legacy than money.

It would never happen. Anthony Joshua is solely a money fighter. Wilder would have accepted the 15mil flat fee from Anthony Joshua but Eddie Hearn took that offer off the table in order for AJ can fight Alexander Povetkin instead.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Wilder who says if he beats Fury he deserves 60% against Joshua? You clowns.

You idiots take things way too literally. I suppose you take it literally when Hearn says 80/20 as well.
Learn about the game kid...

Name any other fighter who’s taken two tougher voluntary defences in the last few years.
I’ll wait...

[Mr.365]

Errol The Truth Spence tbh

[Robbie Barrett]

You idiots take things way too literally. I suppose you take it literally when Hearn says 80/20 as well.
Learn about the game kid...

Name any other fighter who’s taken two tougher voluntary defences in the last few years.
I’ll wait...

Any fighter that's fought a P4P or close to P4P fighter. Ortiz and Fury aren't amazing you clown.

[Marchegiano]

It would never happen. Anthony Joshua is solely a money fighter. Wilder would have accepted the 15mil flat fee from Anthony Joshua but Eddie Hearn took that offer off the table in order for AJ can fight Alexander Povetkin instead.

Oh ****, I see. They're an entire team of princesses.