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  • Ray*
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    #71
    None. Especially the ones that talk about it. They are all prizefighters and they go by what their teams tells them.

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      #72
      Originally posted by Ray*
      None. Especially the ones that talk about it. They are all prizefighters and they go by what their teams tells them.
      Occasionally you do have fighters that demand that their teams make fights their team doesn't want to make.

      Wilder's team absolutely didn't want him to take the King Kong fight, but he put his foot down and demanded it. His team didn't want him to accept a flat fee for AJ, but he put his foot down and demanded it.

      Linares insisted on the Lomachenko fight when his team was against it.

      But you're right that it's rare.

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      • R_Walken
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        #73
        Probably few and far between

        But can you blame them , fans don’t give a sh.it about them once their gone from the sport

        Legacy doesn’t pay the mortgage , respect doesnt make you not punch drunk at 45

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        • Curt Henning
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          #74
          Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
          Andre Ward???
          As much as I dislike him Floyd is a much better example.
          It’s not about getting out “early” it’s about getting out secure and healthy. But some honourable men are willing to sacrifice that for legacy. Which should be respected.

          Legacy certainly isn’t for “fools” it’s for honourable men who still admire, respect and have burning passion for this sport. Seriously man, that’s so disrespectful to some of the all time greats of the past.

          Muhammad Ali’s legacy will always surpass anything people like Floyd or Ward have. Ali will be remember as one of the most transcendent figures of the 20th century, a man that pushed through social and racial boundaries. While Floyd and Ward will be remembered as successful boxers and businessmen.
          I know who’s life I’d rather have lived.
          ward is a pretty good example, though, of someone who did both pretty well

          the super 6 was a tough tourney in which he wasnt one of the biggest underdogs in it....from a betting perspective at least.......

          ward wasnt making great money then...but doing ok....he really did well the last 2 years of his career though making around 20 mil and taking on his toughest challenge....

          it does stink he had that time off...because he could have maybe added another very good scalp to his resume during that period....but it is what it is

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          • Boksfan
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            #75
            Clenelo Alvaroid is a drug cheat and ugly ginger

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            • Curt Henning
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              #76
              Originally posted by Koba-Grozny
              That's a bit of a ramble, but yeah, ultimately 'business' will always be a major consideration and anyone who claimed (and possibly believed) otherwise is delusional or naive. Not to say there isn't room for some legacy and 'honour' in there too, but it's a balance, see. Boxers are often prideful guys and a lot of them probably would get their faces smashed in and their brains pulped for a belt that's no good for holding up your pants, but they also need to feed their families (or pay for hookers or whatever they want) so they, or - if they're smart - their representatives, usually seek out the best financial options available. Grown up decisions, y'know?

              These guys calling fighters names really get under your skin, huh? Can't you see you're doing exactly the same kinda thing? It's a vicious circle man, and it leaves none of you looking good from where I'm standing.
              fire with fire bruh

              a couple of weeks ago canelo was a lousy, gift decision getting, poosy......now hes a p4p great since hes affiliated with DAZN....lol

              im hardly as bad as most of these guys...but on certain days i can be just as bad

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              • Curt Henning
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                #77
                it always amazes me when u take shots at guys faves how they act..."more ggg bashing...get over it" or whatever nonsense...instead of actually looking at their, or others, actions and words and how they treated canelo and golovkin differently........what i said was factual though....it happened...i didnt make it up.....maybe some of you guys should spend more time reflecting on the career(or lack of) of your "hero"....and ask questions about him and yourself...and how you treated canelo....instead of just getting defensive

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                • Steven Mccowan
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                  #78
                  Loma and Usyk. Like a few other fellas said

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                  • Curt Henning
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Steven Mccowan
                    Loma and Usyk. Like a few other fellas said
                    thats fair

                    hopefully that doesnt change with them....

                    there are some people, not only in boxing but in life, who cant be bought.....which goes against what the million dollar man ted debiase taught me as a youth..."everybody has a price"

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                    • Steven Mccowan
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Curt Henning
                      thats fair

                      hopefully that doesnt change with them....

                      there are some people, not only in boxing but in life, who cant be bought.....which goes against what the million dollar man ted debiase taught me as a youth..."everybody has a price"
                      Hahaha. Yeah. I loved the million dollar man lol

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