Comments Thread For: Luis Ortiz Manager on Possible Hearn Deal, Status of Return

[PotentialToast]

Povetkin says hes returning on the April Joshua undercard, Ortiz people saying a big fight in the UK. Povetkin/Ortiz anyone?

That is a fight I would like to see.

[Straightener]

If Hearn is going to give him guaranteed money he'd be a fool not to take it. Even if it means not fighting AJ.

I'm still not sure what the fandom of Hearn is all about. I also don't get why folks think he's someone to have any feelings towards whatsoever outside of his role in delivering fights that fans want to see. He's just a promoter.

Your one of those flippy flop posters

You have s**t on Hearn and what he’s trying to do on pretty much every thread involving DAZN

What he’s doing is good for boxing but some of you guys are to set in ways

[Bronx2245]

He stunk the place out ...

Now he had a close fight with wilder he’s a killer . The most feared man in boxing !!

I think he was the most feared guy before Wilder, which is why he didn't get a shot at Chisora, Whyte, or Joshua when he was signed to MatchRoom! Now that I think about it, Miller hasn't gotten a shot at Chisora, Whyte, or Joshua either! See a pattern?

[kafkod]

Your post in inconsquential to mine, as you missed the bigger picture, the point was : regardless of which title Oritz would of stood to gain, the fact remains Ortiz was signed to Eddie Hearns but Hearns protected Joshua and decided to give lesser challengers like : Breazeale, Molina opportunities that Ortiz had EARNED, fighting for Matchroom on SKY.

AJ fought Beazeale before Ortiz had even signed with Matchroom!

The Molina fight came just after, and as Ortiz was completely unknown to UK fans, it made sense to have him fight a well known UK HW on the AJ/Molina undercard to raise his profile in the UK before the WBA mando was ordered.

Plus, Molina was coming off a good performance vs Wilder, so his UK profile was much higher than Ortiz's back then.

[Straightener]

I think he was the most feared guy before Wilder, which is why he didn't get a shot at Chisora, Whyte, or Joshua when he was signed to MatchRoom! Now that I think about it, Miller hasn't gotten a shot at Chisora, Whyte, or Joshua either! See a pattern?

Dude went twelve rounds with Malik Scott In his showcase fight who Chisora ruined

He was a hard sell before he made wilder look average now he’s killer

[kafkod]

If Hearn is going to give him guaranteed money he'd be a fool not to take it. Even if it means not fighting AJ.

I'm still not sure what the fandom of Hearn is all about. I also don't get why folks think he's someone to have any feelings towards whatsoever outside of his role in delivering fights that fans want to see. He's just a promoter.

Putting people straight when they post nonsense is not "fandom"

If even a tenth of the crap people talk about Hearn at this site was true, he would have been sued bankrupt and lost his promoter's licence by now!

[1hourRun]

Nonsense! If that was true, then why would he be going back with him now?

I'm only telling you the facts, and what Ortiz himself said about Eddie.

No answer and deflection... Thought so.

Never stated wilder didn't do well against Ortiz or that he was ducking him.. just asked you a question you can't seem to answer.

No need to answer trivial questions is how I got about NSB, the answer is obvious why entertain a question that waste everyones time reading walls of text?

Deontay was locked in for Pedvetkin as mandatory, then Alexander kept playing games, requesting tune-ups vs. Wach delaying the fight, failing PED test,

meanwhilst Deontay had fractured his hand in the first Stiverne fight and was recovering, fighting lower-opposition like Molina to get him ready for the #2. in the world and mandatory challenger Alexander Pedvetkin.

Blah, blah, blah, blah, did you just start following the sport?

[yammy25]

I'm only telling you the facts, and what Ortiz himself said about Eddie.

No need to answer trivial questions is how I got about NSB, the answer is obvious why entertain a question that waste everyones time reading walls of text?

Deontay was locked in for Pedvetkin as mandatory, then Alexander kept playing games, requesting tune-ups vs. Wach delaying the fight, failing PED test,

meanwhilst Deontay had fractured his hand in the first Stiverne fight and was recovering, fighting lower-opposition like Molina to get him ready for the #2. in the world and mandatory challenger Alexander Pedvetkin.

Blah, blah, blah, blah, did you just start following the sport?

Oh so what you're saying is wilder wasn't at a point after stiverne where it was smart for him to fight someone of the calibre of Ortiz. It would have been bad business financially and in terms of his career due to his injury.. so he fought what..2 or 3 tune ups prior to his mandatory in povetkin? Yeah 3.. Molina . Duhaupas and szpilka. Wow 3 tune ups needed before being okay with that hand.. lol no room for Ortiz in there though .

Much like it would have been bad for AJ to come off a first defense straight into Ortiz for another voluntary when an agreement had already been made to fight Klitschko subject to the WBA's sanctioning Approval.

I get you now.. one rule for your guy ..another for the Brit . Kk man

[frosty-g]

Guys, I just want to know, how many times did the great Eric Molina impressed you all in the UK? or how about telling me whats your favorite Dominic Breazeale performance on English soil?

Hahaha good point. Too true

[CJFRENCH]

Eventually he steps up

When the opportunity at becoming THE MAN comes up, WHO in their right minds pass on such a offer? This is what Deontay has worked his whole career for. Both of you know GayJ would never fight the 'Gypsy-King'.

Wilder really has worked his whole career for this with 40 fights in. AJ is only just getting started and yet he is a unified World Heavy Weight Champion with 22 fights. The fights with Fury and Wilder will happen, but when calling AJ a coward or scared, or a robotic slow chinny fighter we only have to compare where Wilder or Fury was with 22 fights in. Wilder is fighting Fury before AJ, so what is the big deal.

The Lineal World Heavy Weight Champion this is being put forward to help promote the fight. However Fury was caught cheating with a banned steroid from the Christian Hammer fight and then his alcohol and ******* abuse after the Klitschko fight, resulting in post dated ban as he was to ill to fight in any case.
Fighters lose their titles from such things and with his long absence he really has no right to say he is still the Lineal WHW Champion. However it clearly appeals to the US fight fans as Wilder can then claim to be (if he wins) the LWHWC.