Comments Thread For: Hearn on HBO's End, U.S. Market, Overpaying Fightrers, More

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  • Nomadic
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    #31
    Originally posted by Zaryu
    Has he ever wondered if maybe promoters are over paid?
    Exactly, no talent or skills. Just a sharp tongue.

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    • Eff Pandas
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      #32
      Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
      Wasn't his whole thing was to overpay fighters to get them to leave PBC?
      LOL yea I think that got brought up early on in the seach for US talent so its even odder he's talking how he's talking now with these remarks.

      I think people who are suggesting he doesn't truly have access to $125M a year are onto something.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Eff Pandas
        LOL yea I think that got brought up early on in the seach for US talent so its even odder he's talking how he's talking now with these remarks.

        I think people who are suggesting he doesn't truly have access to $125M a year are onto something.
        I doubt he does. The moves he's making just isn't adding up to that much money. I've seen a lot of DAZN ads targeted to me. But I haven't seen any Matchroom USA ads or ads for his fights

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          #34
          Originally posted by Eff Pandas
          Well the fight of Jacobs' that did the highest ratings was his last fight vs Maciej Sulecki who I doubt alot of hardcore fans care about or even knew who he was/is so it would seem like its increased.

          But I wouldn't suggest one fighter proves or disproves someone is doing a good job as a promoter so not sure the point here. That'd be like saying Hearn is the best promoter off of what he did with Joshua or saying Oscar is the best promoter off of what he did with Canelo. Its more complicated then one guy.
          I remember when Jacobs signed with him and everybody was saying he was going to make Jacobs a star. Since signing with Hearn, Jacobs profile has dropped considerably. Charlo, GGG, and Canelo are the three most talked about MW's. And Hearn put him in Long Island for his first card and the tickets sold poorly. Then he turned around and put him in Brooklyn the week after Broner fought there so the tickets sold poorly. Now he's movin him to the Garden theatre. The most talk Jacobs has gotten recently was when he got into an argument with Jermall Charlo.

          Eddie has a built in advantage over in the UK with his father and Sky. But here his fights are selling and they're giving away free tickets


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          • _Rexy_
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            #35
            Yeah Eddie, it’s the fighters that are overpaid. The guys that are literally risking their lives to put money in your pocket. THEY are the ones who are overpaid.

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            • champion4ever
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              #36
              It's an outdated business model for sure. In the past it was the boxing programming that was help driving up the subscriptions for HBO.

              That's why they were overpaying the Mike Tyson's, the Larry Holmes', the Lennox Lewis' and the Roy Jones'. However, by the early 21st century; Times began to change.

              Boxing was no longer seen as a mainstream sport in the states anymore. Therefore, HBO had decided to start cutting their sports programming budget.

              Since boxing was no longer the driving force that was boosting their subscriptions. They had begun to gradually move away from American boxing and slowly began to tap into the Eastern European market which ultimately led to its timely demise.

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              • danktrees
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                #37
                he's not wrong if he has the numbers to back it up. everyone thinks that just because the sport is super hard and you risk injury that you should be able to ask for whatever you want. the reality is that it's a business and any businessman will tell you that people are paid based on the amount of revenue they can generate.

                looking at a lot of these cards, half the venue is empty, hbo isnt paying as much for fights any more etc. so there's less money to go to the fighters. but based on what he's saying it looks like promoters or brands such as pbc end up having to overpay to book these fights.

                and promoters definitely have value, most of these fighters cant even manage their own finances, there's zero chance that they'd get anything done with regards to setting up fights etc. if they didnt have a manager or promoter doing it for them.

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